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In article <memo.20041118173201.33301A.TakeThisOut@rafe.compulink.oc.ku>,
Rafe Culpin <nospam.TakeThisOut@see.sig.to.reply> wrote:
 >In article <3043diF2q1gi3U1.TakeThisOut@uni-berlin.de>, Melody.TakeThisOut@wibble.org (Melody S-K)
 >wrote:
  >> I have just read that *they* are taking the beef out of Bovril!

<hugs Melody>

 >OK, so they're taking the beef out of beef extract, and replacing it with
 >yeast. To appeal to vegetarians. Who already have the established
 >brands Marmite and Vegemite which they will now be in direct competition
 >with instead of having the major brand name.

In other words, they will have products against which they can compete
directly rather than having to be inventive in finding customers.

 >Are you sure this was merely some management types, and not actual
 >politicians?

Sounds like Unilever Marketing to me.

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In <3043diF2q1gi3U1.TakeThisOut@uni-berlin.de> Melody wrote in horror:

 >I have just read that *they* are taking the beef out of Bovril!

They can't very well go on calling it Bovril then, seeing that means
"Life-giving from bovines". I do hope that someone in the EU regulatory
business is watching them.

 >I am livid! I use bovril in every savoury dish that I make and
 >Conor and Stephen have it on toast and in their sandwiches

Um. Maybe you could use Oxo or Knorr in the savoury dishes? I don't think
it would be possible to substitute crushed oxo on toast or in sandwiches
though...

 >Apparantly they want to make it more appealing to vegetarians
 >and ward off the worry of BSE

I don't suppose it will be at *all* the same in coffee or porridge when
it's made from yeast instead of beef. What a damn' shame.

 >*cries*

Oh, poor BB! Here, have a hankie with a lovingly hand-embroidered cow in
one corner, and a wreath of clover round the edge, to mop up with...

Question: what's the shelf-life of Bovril? I mean, how long would it
generally last if it is left unopened? I shall obviously have to lay in a
really huge supply for the shop, to last a long while. (And maybe you can
buy up great stocks of it for use at home, to ward off the evil day when it
is no longer there for the 'widges?)

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In <20041118185628.638122402670891.RemoveThis@firedrake.org> Firedrake R wrote:

 >In article <memo.20041118173201.33301A.RemoveThis@rafe.compulink.oc.ku>,
 >Rafe Culpin <nospam.RemoveThis@see.sig.to.reply> wrote:
  >>OK, so they're taking the beef out of beef extract, and replacing it with
  >>yeast. To appeal to vegetarians. Who already have the established
  >>brands Marmite and Vegemite which they will now be in direct competition
  >>with instead of having the major brand name.
 >In other words, they will have products against which they can compete
 >directly rather than having to be inventive in finding customers.

And they will lose, because the Marmite folk are calmly and utterly Marmite
folk in a most traditional way, and even at one point prevented the Marmite
makers from changing the shape of the jar, by a determined boycott of the
new straight jars -- it halved the sales for four months, and the makers
admitted defeat and went back to the proper jars again.

  >>Are you sure this was merely some management types, and not actual
  >>politicians?
 >Sounds like Unilever Marketing to me.

Does Unilever also make Oxo or Knorr, by any chance? If not, they will
lose out to those, too.

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In article <20041118215027.631246046236814 DeleteThis @firedrake.org>,
<anon2765 DeleteThis @firedrake.org> wrote:

 >Does Unilever also make Oxo or Knorr, by any chance? If not, they will
 >lose out to those, too.

Unilever owns van den Bergh, which makes Oxo. Knorr appears to be a
brand of Bestfoods UK Ltd.

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On 2004-11-18, Roger Burton West <roger.TakeThisOut@nospam.firedrake.org> wrote:

  >> Does Unilever also make Oxo or Knorr, by any chance? If not, they will
  >> lose out to those, too.
 >
 > Unilever owns van den Bergh, which makes Oxo. Knorr appears to be a
 > brand of Bestfoods UK Ltd.

Bestfoods is also part of Unilever -- its full name is 'Unilever Bestfoods
UK Ltd'.

Cheers,

N.

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In article <slrncpq9v9.ri8.n.g.boalch DeleteThis @compsoc.dur.ac.uk>,
Nick Boalch <n.g.boalch DeleteThis @durham.ac.uk> wrote:

 >Bestfoods is also part of Unilever -- its full name is 'Unilever Bestfoods
 >UK Ltd'.

Aha. Thank you. All becomes clear; they had "too many" products in that
particular slot.

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On 2004-11-19, Roger Burton West <roger.DeleteThis@nospam.firedrake.org> wrote:

  >> Bestfoods is also part of Unilever -- its full name is 'Unilever
  >> Bestfoods UK Ltd'.
 >
 > Aha. Thank you. All becomes clear; they had "too many" products in that
 > particular slot.

That doesn't surprise me -- they seem to own just about everything!

Unilever come round the university every so often to seduce undergraduates
into their graduate training programs; they have these big events where
they give out lots of free Unilever stuff. PG Tips, Lipton Tea, Knorr,
Marmite, Bovril, Pepperami, Pot Noodles, cosmetics, perfumes, aftershave,
cleaning products, ice cream...

Cheers,

N.

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Roger Burton West wrote:
 >
 > In article <20041118215027.631246046236814.RemoveThis@firedrake.org>,
 > <anon2765.RemoveThis@firedrake.org> wrote:
 >
  > >Does Unilever also make Oxo or Knorr, by any chance?
  > >If not, they will lose out to those, too.
 >
 > Unilever owns van den Bergh, which makes Oxo. Knorr appears to be a
 > brand of Bestfoods UK Ltd.

Ah, if they own Oxo they also own Brooke Bond, since the industrial
arm of that conglomerate (culture medium, etc.) was "Brooke Bond Oxoid".

The do not own my truffle supply, however. 3:O)>

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They _do_ appear to own Marmite, though. This is worrying.

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In <419E7075.F5B.RemoveThis@do.not.spam.the.moose> Cadbury imparted:

>Roger Burton West wrote:
>> In article <20041118215027.631246046236814.RemoveThis@firedrake.org>,
>> <anon2765.RemoveThis@firedrake.org> wrote:
>> >Does Unilever also make Oxo or Knorr, by any chance?
>> >If not, they will lose out to those, too.
>> Unilever owns van den Bergh, which makes Oxo. Knorr appears to be a
>> brand of Bestfoods UK Ltd.
>Ah, if they own Oxo they also own Brooke Bond, since the industrial
>arm of that conglomerate (culture medium, etc.) was "Brooke Bond Oxoid".
>The do not own my truffle supply, however. 3:O)>

Well thank the lord for that, sir!

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>They _do_ appear to own Marmite, though. This is worrying.

Unnerving even. I thought Marmite belonged to Boots: are they now
Unilever, or have they always been and I just didn't notice?

Beetle

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In article <20041120002306.57195378148845.TakeThisOut@firedrake.org>,
anon2765.TakeThisOut@firedrake.org wrote:

>In <419E7075.F5B.TakeThisOut@do.not.spam.the.moose> Cadbury imparted:

<Unilever foodstuff empire>

>>Ah, if they own Oxo they also own Brooke Bond, since the industrial
>>arm of that conglomerate (culture medium, etc.) was "Brooke Bond Oxoid".
>>They do not own my truffle supply, however. 3:O)>
>
>Well thank the lord for that, sir!
>
>><FX: Moose looks in cupboard>
>>They _do_ appear to own Marmite, though. This is worrying.
>
>Unnerving even. I thought Marmite belonged to Boots: are they now
>Unilever, or have they always been and I just didn't notice?

Marmite _used_ to be "Premier Brands", at one point (I assume they
got bought up at some time or other). I've had "Marmite" that was
made in Sarf Efrica and imported into .uk, and it tasted more like
Vegemite. (This was an /interesting/ surprise.)

Off the topic in hand, and vaguely Ork-related: I used to have to
visit the company "Disaster Recovery" site in Walton (upon the Thames),
and that used to be Brooke Bond's computer centre (apparently). It's
the only machine room I've ever seen with wood-panelled walls and
brown cork tiles....

Chris.

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Ebay will be full of the beefy stuff...
Au Res.,
Paul (not keen on the idea of a Marmity Bovril - if I want something Yeast
Extracty on my toast, I'll go for Marmite.)

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