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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:19 pm
Post subject: Are they really trying to hitch Storm?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:38 pm
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There has always been a shared history btw T'Challa and Ororo from her
youth spent travelling the African continent. It has been largely only
hinted at or shown in brief vignettes but the 2 characters played
significant roles in each others development. A lenghty exploration of
that period in both characters lives makes sense given the current
trend of slow burn character origin examination (ie Spider-Woman
Origin) but I have concern for the execution. While Priest mastered
the subtleties of the Black Panther/Storm relationship dynamic in a way
that was suitably understated yet passionate, current writers have made
it far more overwrought for dramatic purposes. Storm exclaiming "You
won't break my heart again!" at BP was far to melodramatic for the
dignity with which their love bond has been shown to have. |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:03 pm
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"megagearx@aol.com" <megagearx.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in
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> Will Black Panter be an honorary X-Man? LMAO
Priest wasn't allowed to marry them, back when Storm was worried
that T'Challa was becoming too much like Magneto. >> Stay informed about: Are they really trying to hitch Storm? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:03 pm
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Billy Bissette wrote:
> "megagearx@aol.com" <megagearx RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in
>>Will Black Panter be an honorary X-Man? LMAO
> Priest wasn't allowed to marry them, back when Storm was worried
> that T'Challa was becoming too much like Magneto.
Another example of THE MAN keeping a brother down ... 
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"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For within these
Trials, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>> >> Stay informed about: Are they really trying to hitch Storm? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:45 am
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megagearx.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
>>Will Black Panter be an honorary X-Man? LMAO<<
Ya know, there is *NOTHING* at all organic about this -- are they retconning
shared history between the two? (I stopped reading BP when Priest left the
book and I understand the character has been "rebooted" of sorts)
It just makes no sense whatsoever. >> Stay informed about: Are they really trying to hitch Storm? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:15 am
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"Colcannon Bacstai" <bippiboy.RemoveThis@excite.com> wrote in
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> megagearx.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>>Will Black Panter be an honorary X-Man? LMAO<<
>
> Ya know, there is *NOTHING* at all organic about this -- are they
> retconning shared history between the two? (I stopped reading BP when
> Priest left the book and I understand the character has been
> "rebooted" of sorts)
It's nothing new that those two met long before either of them became
super-heroes. I do believe that a substantial relationship is a huge
retcon. >> Stay informed about: Are they really trying to hitch Storm? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:17 pm
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"Jinx" <jinxdv8.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> There has always been a shared history btw T'Challa and Ororo from her
> youth spent travelling the African continent. It has been largely only
> hinted at or shown in brief vignettes but the 2 characters played
> significant roles in each others development. A lenghty exploration of
> that period in both characters lives makes sense given the current
> trend of slow burn character origin examination (ie Spider-Woman
> Origin) but I have concern for the execution. While Priest mastered
> the subtleties of the Black Panther/Storm relationship dynamic in a way
> that was suitably understated yet passionate, current writers have made
> it far more overwrought for dramatic purposes. Storm exclaiming "You
> won't break my heart again!" at BP was far to melodramatic for the
> dignity with which their love bond has been shown to have.
I hope T'Challa and Orroro don't marry. I know it's been a long-dead
relationship now, but I'd rather see Storm marry Forge.
Claremont handled that story extremely well and Barry Windsor Smith gave the
tale a smoothness that just can't be matched.
Maybe the story shouldn't be retold because it was such a gem. I find it
interesting that no one has ever really tried to rekindle that flame, but,
ah well.
With her much-storied need for space, I don't know if I ever really saw
Orroro as the marrying type. But I guess even a goddess needs love, too!
Dave >> Stay informed about: Are they really trying to hitch Storm? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:20 am
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Paul O'Brien <paul.DeleteThis@SPAMBLOCK.esoterica.demon.co.uk> wrote in
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> Priest used the Panther/Storm relationship in his run as well.
The marriage aspect of Priest's use was "You're turning into a
villain. You're a friend. I care enough about both you and the
world in general that I'd marry you to stop such a transformation."
Which was a nice touch. Certainly better than "Ooh, we've got
TWO African characters! Let's marry them off!" (At least we haven't
had "Ooh, we've got TWO African characters! Let's make them
relatives!" yet.) >> Stay informed about: Are they really trying to hitch Storm? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:25 pm
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Billy Bissette wrote:
> Paul O'Brien <paul.TakeThisOut@SPAMBLOCK.esoterica.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> news:evZRAJBXEYyDFwnD@esoterica.demon.co.uk:
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> > Priest used the Panther/Storm relationship in his run as well.
>
> The marriage aspect of Priest's use was "You're turning into a
> villain. You're a friend. I care enough about both you and the
> world in general that I'd marry you to stop such a transformation."
>
> Which was a nice touch. Certainly better than "Ooh, we've got
> TWO African characters! Let's marry them off!" (At least we haven't
> had "Ooh, we've got TWO African characters! Let's make them
> relatives!" yet.)
[glares at Bishop and Gateway]
Dex^^ >> Stay informed about: Are they really trying to hitch Storm? |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:21 pm
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Brian Doyle wrote:
> "Hand-of-Omega" <handofomega RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > Which was a nice touch. Certainly better than "Ooh, we've got
> > > TWO African characters! Let's marry them off!" (At least we haven't
> > > had "Ooh, we've got TWO African characters! Let's make them
> > > relatives!" yet.)
> >
> > [glares at Bishop and Gateway]
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> Wasn't it suggested M was related to Bishop or Gateway or somesuch?
Well, M and Gateway is considered possible because he watched out for
her and her sisters. But he did the same for Jubilee.
M and Bishop is based on something Bishop said when he saw her. But at
the time he had been knocked loopy and all he really saw when looking
at her was a blur. Of course her brother's power also involves energy
absorbsion and redirection.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:54 pm
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"Hand-of-Omega" <handofomega DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> Billy Bissette wrote:
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>> Which was a nice touch. Certainly better than "Ooh, we've got
>> TWO African characters! Let's marry them off!" (At least we haven't
>> had "Ooh, we've got TWO African characters! Let's make them
>> relatives!" yet.)
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> [glares at Bishop and Gateway]
Is it a good thing or a bad thing that Claremont made the until now
assumed black guy (wasn't he hinted to be related to Storm at one point)
an Australian in order to connect him to Gateway?
On one hand, he didn't follow the most basic form of the cliche.
On the other hand, it is pretty obvious he did it because of the
cliche, perhaps thinking his was some kind of amazing twist upon the
idea and therefore good. >> Stay informed about: Are they really trying to hitch Storm? |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:55 pm
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"Hand-of-Omega" <handofomega DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Which was a nice touch. Certainly better than "Ooh, we've got
> > TWO African characters! Let's marry them off!" (At least we haven't
> > had "Ooh, we've got TWO African characters! Let's make them
> > relatives!" yet.)
>
> [glares at Bishop and Gateway]
Wasn't it suggested M was related to Bishop or Gateway or somesuch? >> Stay informed about: Are they really trying to hitch Storm? |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:38 pm
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Billy Bissette wrote:
> kenneth_m_lin RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net wrote:
>> Seriously, I'd have more respect for Marvel if BP marries someone,
>> say, more chunkier than usual.
>>
>> BTW, didn't BP's mom suggested that he checks out one of his
>> bodyguards? Talk about tacky.
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> The Dora Milaje(sp?), his bodyguards at least during Priest's
> run, were considered something like his wives.
Indeed. Run some Google searches on "African Amazons." This sort of
thing has roots in many African nations (both sub-Sarahan and not), as
well as other cultures. >> Stay informed about: Are they really trying to hitch Storm? |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:33 pm
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Colcannon Bacstai <bippiboy DeleteThis @excite.com> wrote:
: megagearx DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote in message
: >>Will Black Panter be an honorary X-Man? LMAO<<
: Ya know, there is *NOTHING* at all organic about this -- are they retconning
: shared history between the two? (I stopped reading BP when Priest left the
: book and I understand the character has been "rebooted" of sorts)
: It just makes no sense whatsoever.
Yes, there's a new mini-series due (by Eric Jerome Dickey of all people, which should
generate some interest) where we learn that Ororo and T'Challa have been in love
sense childhood. Too bad she never mentioned it before.
Shawn H. >> Stay informed about: Are they really trying to hitch Storm? |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:28 am
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"Shawn H" <shill#@fas.harvard.edu> wrote in message
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> Yes, there's a new mini-series due (by Eric Jerome Dickey of all people,
> which should
> generate some interest) where we learn that Ororo and T'Challa have been
> in love
> sense childhood. Too bad she never mentioned it before.
>
Perhaps she didn't know how filthy rich he is.
Seriously, I'd have more respect for Marvel if BP marries someone, say, more
chunkier than usual.
BTW, didn't BP's mom suggested that he checks out one of his bodyguards?
Talk about tacky. >> Stay informed about: Are they really trying to hitch Storm? |
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