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iscribe wrote:
 >
 > I am currently testing a new online EPS barcoding system.
 > Anyone who needs professional quality EPS barcodes including ISBN and ISSN
 > can
 > try it out for free just go to
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.internetscribe.com/Reqbarcodeform.asp</font" target="_blank">http://www.internetscribe.com/Reqbarcodeform.asp</font</a>>
 > I am after some user feedback so I can get it upto scratch.

If you're going to spam us and promote your own site, at least try to
be honest about it and not sneak around.
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On Tue, 25 May 2004 12:33:16 GMT, coustanis in comp.publish.prepress wrote:


 >iscribe wrote:
  >>
  >> I am currently testing a new online EPS barcoding system.
  >> Anyone who needs professional quality EPS barcodes including ISBN and ISSN
  >> can
  >> try it out for free just go to
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.internetscribe.com/Reqbarcodeform.asp</font" target="_blank">http://www.internetscribe.com/Reqbarcodeform.asp</font</a>>
  >> I am after some user feedback so I can get it upto scratch.

 >If you're going to spam us and promote your own site, at least try to
 >be honest about it and not sneak around.
 >IOW...Take a turd, suck it to a point and poke your eye out with it.

First it's free.

Second, he's beta testing it and invited feedback for people using it.

If you can't or are unwilling to help, no comment is needed. I don't see that
post as Spam or UCE.

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S.Allen
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Eric what is Tex?
"Eric" <Eric DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message news:egDsc.21$sa2.0@newsfe3-gui...
 > iscribe wrote:
 >
  > > I am currently testing a new online EPS barcoding system.
  > > Anyone who needs professional quality EPS barcodes including ISBN and
  > > ISSN can
  > > try it out for free just go to
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.internetscribe.com/Reqbarcodeform.asp</font" target="_blank">http://www.internetscribe.com/Reqbarcodeform.asp</font</a>>
  > > I am after some user feedback so I can get it upto scratch.
 >
 > Or you can do it for free anyway if you use TeX.
 >
 > Eric<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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I think Tex is font based, can you do bar width reduction to compensate for
bar expation in printing.
Im only the web interface programmer and was told by the barcoding experts
that you cant use a font based systems to do prepress barcodes, so thats why
I have based this product on direct drawn and outlined eps files.
..Simon.
"Eric" <Eric DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message news:egDsc.21$sa2.0@newsfe3-gui...
 > iscribe wrote:
 >
  > > I am currently testing a new online EPS barcoding system.
  > > Anyone who needs professional quality EPS barcodes including ISBN and
  > > ISSN can
  > > try it out for free just go to
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.internetscribe.com/Reqbarcodeform.asp</font" target="_blank">http://www.internetscribe.com/Reqbarcodeform.asp</font</a>>
  > > I am after some user feedback so I can get it upto scratch.
 >
 > Or you can do it for free anyway if you use TeX.
 >
 > Eric<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"marathon" <M.RemoveThis@linux.ca> wrote in message
news:slrncb7ovb.3ue.M@barnyard.sweetpig.dyndns.org...
 > On Tue, 25 May 2004 12:33:16 GMT, coustanis in comp.publish.prepress
wrote:
 >
 >
  > >iscribe wrote:
   > >>
   > >> I am currently testing a new online EPS barcoding system.
   > >> Anyone who needs professional quality EPS barcodes including ISBN and
ISSN
   > >> can
   > >> try it out for free just go to
<font color=brown>   > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.internetscribe.com/Reqbarcodeform.asp</font" target="_blank">http://www.internetscribe.com/Reqbarcodeform.asp</font</a>>
   > >> I am after some user feedback so I can get it upto scratch.
 >
  > >If you're going to spam us and promote your own site, at least try to
  > >be honest about it and not sneak around.
  > >IOW...Take a turd, suck it to a point and poke your eye out with it.
 >
 > First it's free.
 >
 > Second, he's beta testing it and invited feedback for people using it.
 >
 > If you can't or are unwilling to help, no comment is needed. I don't see
that
 > post as Spam or UCE.
 >
 > --
 > S.Allen
 > -----------------------------------------------
 > barnyard Tuesday May 25 2004 08:20:01 PM EDT
 > -----------------------------------------------
 > Support your right to bare arms!
 > -- A message from the National Short-Sleeved Shirt Association

Thank you S.Allen its good to see there are some who check before dumping
abusing.
- Simon.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 10:45:04 +1000, "iscribe" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.co.hh>
wrote:

 >I think Tex is font based, can you do bar width reduction to compensate for
 >bar expation in printing.
 >Im only the web interface programmer and was told by the barcoding experts
 >that you cant use a font based systems to do prepress barcodes, so thats why
 >I have based this product on direct drawn and outlined eps files.
 >.Simon.

The barcode software I use has multiple fonts to cater for ink spread
(which is what I assume you mean by "expation"). For our clients
(usually newspapers) we produce at least two versions of the font, one
for fairly good newsprint and one with a thinner barcode font for
poorer quality newsprint. We are also members of the article numbering
association and so can submit barcodes to them if there are any
queries and so there is effectively a guarantee -- if the association
says there's a problem, we redo the barcode free, otherwise it is
guaranteed to work worldwide. But that check should be on a proof of
the product or package.

I hope you are offering a similar guarantee, and a similar means to
ensure you are not held liable if someone prints a few million items
which won't scan.

A font-based system does ensure proper spacing, especially when using
thinned down bars, as it is not just a case of reducing the outline in
an eps, though we supply the code as an eps or pdf.

Incidentally, I don't see you as competition -- we only do the codes
for clients where we are supplying other services plus a few local
clients with nice product samples, such as wineries Others are
usually referred to one of the free web services.

--
Gordon Woolf
The Worsley Press <www.worsleypress.com>
Publishers of "How to Start and Produce a Magazine or Newsletter"<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Gordon Woolf <gwoolf @ nospamnetspace.net.au> wrote in message news:<dejbb010nkpk01edp6nb3dfvihpbo8qv50.DeleteThis@4ax.com>...
 > On Wed, 26 May 2004 10:45:04 +1000, "iscribe" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.co.hh>
 > wrote:
 >
  > >I think Tex is font based, can you do bar width reduction to compensate for
  > >bar expation in printing.
  > >Im only the web interface programmer and was told by the barcoding experts
  > >that you cant use a font based systems to do prepress barcodes, so thats why
  > >I have based this product on direct drawn and outlined eps files.
  > >.Simon.

First, TeX can import eps and similar graphic images. Second, TeX can
of course handle fonts of all flavors, including barcode fonts. But
TeX can also in its own native language draw vertical lines to any
degree of thinness that the ultimate RIP can handle. The smallest unit
of measurement for drawing a vertical line in TeX is called a scaled
point (sp for short which is 1/65536 of a printer's point which in
turn is 1/72.27 of an inch. You do the math but this gets into
scientific notation, something like 2.113 to the -07 power. In other
words TeX can draw a vertical line so thin that no printing device in
current use could print it. It is not font-bound in this kind of
application.

But one could create such a font in Metafont, a part of TeX, or create
a series of individual bars for different alphanumerics in Metapost,
which creates PostScript code directly. I can conceive of a Metapost
application that would take the EAN string and with adjustable
parameters scale the bar widths to compensate for printing
irregularities. One of the strengths of Metafont and Metapost is this
parameter based tweaking of an entire file.

Having said all that, buying a preformatted barcode block for your
book is cheap enough. Although there are the existing TeX macros/fonts
for creating them I would probably just go out and buy a block from a
specialist, and put the eps on my cover.

John Culleton
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On 28 May 2004 06:28:48 -0700, john DeleteThis @wexfordpress.com (John Culleton)
wrote:

 >Having said all that, buying a preformatted barcode block for your
 >book is cheap enough. Although there are the existing TeX macros/fonts
 >for creating them I would probably just go out and buy a block from a
 >specialist, and put the eps on my cover.

Your description of the TeX capabilities is impressive, and if someone
did all that work I'm sure they'd find a market... there are a lot of
people who'd rather pay for a barcode graphic from someone who backs
it with a guarantee than to use a free one. However the first step
would be to get the full specification of the barcodes, and to get
that legally would involve paying the dollars to join one of the
article numbering associations. As you say, much easier -- and cheaper
-- to buy an EPS or PDF, whether it is made with fonts or not.

--
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"Gordon Woolf" <gwoolf @ nospamnetspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:dejbb010nkpk01edp6nb3dfvihpbo8qv50@4ax.com...
 > On Wed, 26 May 2004 10:45:04 +1000, "iscribe" <nospam.RemoveThis@nospam.co.hh>
 > wrote:
 >
  > >I think Tex is font based, can you do bar width reduction to compensate
for
  > >bar expation in printing.
  > >Im only the web interface programmer and was told by the barcoding
experts
  > >that you cant use a font based systems to do prepress barcodes, so thats
why
  > >I have based this product on direct drawn and outlined eps files.
  > >.Simon.
 >
 > The barcode software I use has multiple fonts to cater for ink spread
 > (which is what I assume you mean by "expation"). For our clients
 > (usually newspapers) we produce at least two versions of the font, one
 > for fairly good newsprint and one with a thinner barcode font for
 > poorer quality newsprint. We are also members of the article numbering
 > association and so can submit barcodes to them if there are any
 > queries and so there is effectively a guarantee -- if the association
 > says there's a problem, we redo the barcode free, otherwise it is
 > guaranteed to work worldwide. But that check should be on a proof of
 > the product or package.
 >
 > I hope you are offering a similar guarantee, and a similar means to
 > ensure you are not held liable if someone prints a few million items
 > which won't scan.
 >
 > A font-based system does ensure proper spacing, especially when using
 > thinned down bars, as it is not just a case of reducing the outline in
 > an eps, though we supply the code as an eps or pdf.
 >
 > Incidentally, I don't see you as competition -- we only do the codes
 > for clients where we are supplying other services plus a few local
 > clients with nice product samples, such as wineries Others are
 > usually referred to one of the free web services.
 >
 > --
 > Gordon Woolf
 > The Worsley Press <www.worsleypress.com>
 > Publishers of "How to Start and Produce a Magazine or Newsletter"

I looked at using many barcode engines that used fonts as it would have been
much simpler
for me to interface with, but as I needed to allow any bwr used world wide
I had to go with eps no fonts.
The system redraws the bars from scratch calculating bar width and spacing
to the micron bwr entered.
I used an existing barcode engine for this with a long track record, so how
it does it - I dont know.
I have had the barcodes check by Australia's and the UK's bigest barcode
produces as well as feedback from about
30 others during these test (Thank you all) all said they where happy.
As to a guarantee, I am just testing my software, what people do with my
barcodes is their problem but they can get as many free remakes as they
like.
As to being competition, no I am not going to leave this free service up for
ever.
I write software, and once I am happy with it I will be ofering it to
barcode produces like yourself as a service to you own customers online from
your site.
Simon.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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