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btoren

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 11:02 am
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Hello,

The WVU Libraries invite you to visit their online exhibit celebrating
and publicizing the Isaac Asimov Collection. The eye-catching display
features visuals and descriptions of some of the over 600 books,
games, audio recordings, videos, and wall charts included in the
Libraries' Asimov collection. Digital photography and scanning were
used to create images for the exhibit so that Asmovians throughout the
world can appreciate the collection.

Many first, rare, and autographed editions are in the Libraries' Rare
Book Room, where users must go to extensive effort to see the books.
Those books' covers and autographs are presented online along with
descriptions and images of children's books, science fiction art,
games, recordings, and multimedia. Visit the exhibit online at:
http://www.libraries.wvu.edu/exhibits/asimov/.

We just added a guestbook feature and would really appreciate your
comments.
Thanks!

Beth Jane Toren
Web Services and Reference Librarian
West Virginia University Libraries

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:36 pm
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:05 pm
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Not so long ago, Beth Jane Toren wrote:
 > Many first, rare, and autographed editions are in the Libraries' Rare
 > Book Room, where users must go to extensive effort to see the books.
 > Those books' covers and autographs are presented online along with
 > descriptions and images of children's books, science fiction art,
 > games, recordings, and multimedia. Visit the exhibit online at:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.libraries.wvu.edu/exhibits/asimov/.</font" target="_blank">http://www.libraries.wvu.edu/exhibits/asimov/.</font</a>>

The scans here are *wonderful*
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.libraries.wvu.edu/exhibits/asimov/rare/index.htm" target="_blank">http://www.libraries.wvu.edu/exhibits/asimov/rare/index.htm</a>

Great stuff. Wish I lived closer to WV!
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:05 pm
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joe RemoveThis @jolomo.net wrote:

 >Not so long ago, Beth Jane Toren wrote:

  >> Many first, rare, and autographed editions are in the Libraries' Rare
  >> Book Room, where users must go to extensive effort to see the books.
  >> Those books' covers and autographs are presented online along with
  >> descriptions and images of children's books, science fiction art,
  >> games, recordings, and multimedia. Visit the exhibit online at:
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.libraries.wvu.edu/exhibits/asimov/.</font" target="_blank">http://www.libraries.wvu.edu/exhibits/asimov/.</font</a>>

 >The scans here are *wonderful*
 >http://www.libraries.wvu.edu/exhibits/asimov/rare/index.htm
 >
 >Great stuff. Wish I lived closer to WV!

/Nothing/ is close to WV. Decent folks stay away from that nest of
traitorous scum, remembering to this day their craven desertion during
the War of Northern Aggression.

OJ III
[Which is not to gainsay that the web site is, indeed, "wonderful".
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:58 pm
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Not so long ago, Ogden Johnson III wrote:
  > >Great stuff. Wish I lived closer to WV!

 > /Nothing/ is close to WV. Decent folks stay away from that nest of
 > traitorous scum, remembering to this day their craven desertion during
 > the War of Northern Aggression.

You so silly

Before this exhibit, the only good thing I'd heard about WV
was the canoeing

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:32 pm
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On a similar vein, I have just paid a visit to the Asimov Archives at
Boston University. If you have the opportunity to pay them a visit I
would recommend you do so. I was combining pleasure with pleasure as I
was on vacation in the Boston area and convinced my wife that me spending
a day in the library would be good!

I must first of all give my thanks to Sean Noel who helped coordinate my
visit and to JC who was the archivist assigned to assist me.

If you go I suggest you have a particular topic that you try and research
- if not there is a danger that you will just waste time jumping between
the boxes and there are a lot of them - approximately 400!! I spent the
whole of the day (9:00 - 17:00) there and could have continued for
another day quite happily.

My planned research in the Archive was:

"Isaac Asimov's Research Methodology for Non-Fiction books, in particular
reference material for his European Historical Publications"

I wanted to look for what letters/sources he may have used initially and
for validation. I also wanted to look at proofs for % of change and
areas of change.

I planned to use "The Shaping Of England" as my focus of research.

I was able to look at the original typed 'onion skins' with 'holographic'
(hand written changes) by Asimov and then the corrected galley proofs.
Unfortunately there was not a significant amount of changes and there was
not much correspondence from schools who may have used the books.

I therefore went off topic and started to look at material in the
archives that related to his visit to England in 1974. That proved
interesting to me as you can probably tell I am from the UK.

My other browsing found some of Asimov's journals when he was doing
research and it contained some of his original measurements and notes. I
found a pencil in the spine of one of the journals and comparing the
weight and colour of the writing in the journal I think it was the one he
used for his note-taking.

I now have a confession - I used the pencil to write some notes in my
journal of the day so I could 'have' a bit of the graphite he used!!! I
have also kept the gloves that I used to handle the material so I have
some original Asimov dust!!!! I was also able to get about 20 sheets
photocopied that were primarily related to The Shaping of England.

To complete my research I went to find the house that he was living in
while writing The Shaping of England. After a lot of searching, and
fortunately finding a postman on his rounds, I was able to find the house
in Greenough Street - and yes I did take a photo! I also went to find
his first house in the Boston area in Somerville.

I plan to update my website with more detail of my visit and I will
possibly include hints for others who might consider visiting.

One thing I did think surprising was that there is no painting or bust of
Asimov at Boston University. Perhaps it is a sign of the problems he was
having with the administration for some of the time.

Hopefully this ramble has been of interest to readers of the Newsgroup
and makes a pleasant change from the spam we have had of late.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:29 am
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In article <4c4c2df25aGreg.DeleteThis@gctsmt.demon.co.uk>,
Greg Toland <Greg.DeleteThis@gctsmt.demon.co.uk> wrote:

 > On a similar vein, I have just paid a visit to the Asimov Archives at
 > Boston University. If you have the opportunity to pay them a visit I
 > would recommend you do so. I was combining pleasure with pleasure as I
 > was on vacation in the Boston area and convinced my wife that me spending
 > a day in the library would be good!
 >
 > I must first of all give my thanks to Sean Noel who helped coordinate my
 > visit and to JC who was the archivist assigned to assist me.
 >
 > If you go I suggest you have a particular topic that you try and research
 > - if not there is a danger that you will just waste time jumping between
 > the boxes and there are a lot of them - approximately 400!! I spent the
 > whole of the day (9:00 - 17:00) there and could have continued for
 > another day quite happily.

I agree, a visit to the BU archives is certainly worthwhile for any
Asimov aficionado. The amount of material they have their is mind
boggling. There are 465 boxes of archived material, plus books: more
than 760 U.S. editions, 220 U.K. editions, and 1200 foreign editions. I
have spent more than twenty days there, and I have only looked at a
small fraction of what they have. The staff have always been pleasant
and helpful.

 > My planned research in the Archive was:
 >
 > "Isaac Asimov's Research Methodology for Non-Fiction books, in particular
 > reference material for his European Historical Publications"
 >
 > I wanted to look for what letters/sources he may have used initially and
 > for validation. I also wanted to look at proofs for % of change and
 > areas of change.
 >
 > I planned to use "The Shaping Of England" as my focus of research.
 >
 > I was able to look at the original typed 'onion skins' with 'holographic'
 > (hand written changes) by Asimov and then the corrected galley proofs.
 > Unfortunately there was not a significant amount of changes and there was
 > not much correspondence from schools who may have used the books.

Asimov left very little evidence to document the sources he used for
writing any of his nonfiction. His number one source was his head, and I
don't think he kept any records of what went into his head and when it
went in. Occasionally he made brief references to some of his sources in
the anecdotes preceding his essays; otherwise the only way I can think
of to trace his sources is to find instances where he repeated a mistake
that was made by another author.

Often the corrections he made to his manuscripts consisted mostly of
fixes to the typos and grammatical errors he made as a consequence of
typing 90 words per minute. However, there are a few examples of
manuscripts that were extensively revised. But considering the volume of
his work, they are few and far between.

 > I therefore went off topic and started to look at material in the
 > archives that related to his visit to England in 1974. That proved
 > interesting to me as you can probably tell I am from the UK.

There is a good deal of correspondence in the archives concerning his UK
visit. Once the word got out that he would be visiting England, he
received a flood of requests to speak here or appear there. It looks
like just about every minute of his time spent there was accounted for
in advance. The archives provide a good record of all the planning that
was involved.

 > My other browsing found some of Asimov's journals when he was doing
 > research and it contained some of his original measurements and notes. I
 > found a pencil in the spine of one of the journals and comparing the
 > weight and colour of the writing in the journal I think it was the one he
 > used for his note-taking.

There are some reports he did on his studies of "Life Jacket Dye
Markers", several notebooks concerning the "Inactivation of Tyrosinase",
some notes for a biochemistry course he taught, and notes from a course
that he took. All in all, pretty dry stuff, but interesting from the
point of view of a museum exhibit.

 > I now have a confession - I used the pencil to write some notes in my
 > journal of the day so I could 'have' a bit of the graphite he used!!! I
 > have also kept the gloves that I used to handle the material so I have
 > some original Asimov dust!!!! I was also able to get about 20 sheets
 > photocopied that were primarily related to The Shaping of England.

Now you are scaring me a little.

 > To complete my research I went to find the house that he was living in
 > while writing The Shaping of England. After a lot of searching, and
 > fortunately finding a postman on his rounds, I was able to find the house
 > in Greenough Street - and yes I did take a photo! I also went to find
 > his first house in the Boston area in Somerville.

Sounds like you missed the apartment in Waltham.

 > I plan to update my website with more detail of my visit and I will
 > possibly include hints for others who might consider visiting.
 >
 > One thing I did think surprising was that there is no painting or bust of
 > Asimov at Boston University. Perhaps it is a sign of the problems he was
 > having with the administration for some of the time.

Not surprising, really. Asimov certainly would have nixed such an idea
when he was alive. They have done some Asimov exhibits at the library in
the past, and the fact that they established and have maintained the
archive collection is a greater tribute than any bust or portrait. Any
problems he had with the administration in the past were put aside and
have since been forgotten.

 > Hopefully this ramble has been of interest to readers of the Newsgroup
 > and makes a pleasant change from the spam we have had of late.

I found it interesting.

One of the most significant problems with the Asimov collection at BU is
that since it is so large it is very time consuming to document in
detail. They have a catalog that has more than 420 pages, but its level
of detail is quite variable. In the early years, there was very little
done to organize the collection, making it more difficult to find
particular items of interest. In later years they did a much better job
of classifying, organizing, and documenting the donations. But their
catalog is only available to researchers while they are visiting the
collection. This makes it more difficult to plan in advance.

Another problem with the catalog is that it was compiled by archivists
who were not thoroughly familiar with Asimov's work, so they had to rely
on information he provided to identify the material. Once consequence of
this is that pieces that were retitled in a revision are often scattered
amongst several archive boxes. In general, that did not happen to book
manuscripts, but it did often happen to nonfiction essays, and sometimes
to fiction pieces.

I have spent a lot of time producing my own version of a catalog that
documents their holdings, but it is a monumental task. Ideally, its the
kind of thing that could be done as a community effort, if there are
others out there who have the ways and means to visit the archives and
examine what they have.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 12:22 am
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In article <ejseiler-342D27.22291709112003.DeleteThis@news04.east.earthlink.net>,
Edward Seiler <ejseiler.DeleteThis@earthlink.netDELETETHIS> wrote:
 > One of the most significant problems with the Asimov collection at BU
 > is that since it is so large it is very time consuming to document in
 > detail. They have a catalog that has more than 420 pages, but its level
 > of detail is quite variable. In the early years, there was very little
 > done to organize the collection, making it more difficult to find
 > particular items of interest. In later years they did a much better job
 > of classifying, organizing, and documenting the donations. But their
 > catalog is only available to researchers while they are visiting the
 > collection. This makes it more difficult to plan in advance.

 > Another problem with the catalog is that it was compiled by archivists
 > who were not thoroughly familiar with Asimov's work, so they had to
 > rely on information he provided to identify the material. Once
 > consequence of this is that pieces that were retitled in a revision
 > are often scattered amongst several archive boxes. In general, that
 > did not happen to book manuscripts, but it did often happen to
 > nonfiction essays, and sometimes to fiction pieces.

 > I have spent a lot of time producing my own version of a catalog that
 > documents their holdings, but it is a monumental task. Ideally, its the
 > kind of thing that could be done as a community effort, if there are
 > others out there who have the ways and means to visit the archives and
 > examine what they have.

Thanks for your comments Ed.

I did wonder if it was possible to spread some of the basic catalogue
material amongst Asimov enthusiasts so that it could be loaded into a
spreadsheet for easier searching by people before and during visits. The
current catalogue is only in typewritten and word processor form.

What form is your catalogue in? Are you willing to share any of it?
What else needs to be done to it and what assistance might you need?

Please feel free to reply by private email, but I think readers of this
newsgroup would be interested to hear your further thoughts.

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