Better or more maps in the next book?

Raymond Feist <raymond.TakeThisOut@nospam.bittersea.com> wrote in
news:raymond-A186B3.16091103122006@news-server.san.rr.com:

> In article <Xns988F8075B4428krayyhotmailcom.TakeThisOut@194.177.96.26>,
> Krayy <krayy.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> One thing that I am starting to get a little frustrated with in the
>> newer books is the same map of Midekemia at the front that was
>> published with Magician. Hasn't there been some rejigging of the
>> borders after the Serpentwar and also with the current Conclave books
>> focussing a lot around Roldem and the Eastern Realm, I wouldn't mind
>> seeing some more maps being put into the next book.
>>
>> Any chance of that Ray?
>
> Probably not. The changes are only minor, and we're currently doing
> work on the Atlas maps, so I'd say the next major revision will occur
> after the last Riftwar, when the landscape changes dramatically.
>
> Best, R.E.F.
>

Damn teasers

How about at least putting in the Eastern realm one that was in Talon?
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In article <Xns988F8888C7949krayyhotmailcom.DeleteThis@194.177.96.26>,
Krayy <krayy.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Raymond Feist <raymond.DeleteThis@nospam.bittersea.com> wrote in
> news:raymond-A186B3.16091103122006@news-server.san.rr.com:
>
> > In article <Xns988F8075B4428krayyhotmailcom.DeleteThis@194.177.96.26>,
> > Krayy <krayy.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> One thing that I am starting to get a little frustrated with in the
> >> newer books is the same map of Midekemia at the front that was
> >> published with Magician. Hasn't there been some rejigging of the
> >> borders after the Serpentwar and also with the current Conclave books
> >> focussing a lot around Roldem and the Eastern Realm, I wouldn't mind
> >> seeing some more maps being put into the next book.
> >>
> >> Any chance of that Ray?
> >
> > Probably not. The changes are only minor, and we're currently doing
> > work on the Atlas maps, so I'd say the next major revision will occur
> > after the last Riftwar, when the landscape changes dramatically.
> >
> > Best, R.E.F.
> >
>
> Damn teasers
>
> How about at least putting in the Eastern realm one that was in Talon?

Well, probably not (again) as the action in the last book doesn't
involve much of the Eastern Kingdoms per se.

Best, R.E.F.

--
Never attribute to malice what can satisfactorily
be explained away by stupidity.
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Krayy wrote:
> Raymond Feist <raymond.DeleteThis@nospam.bittersea.com> wrote in
> news:raymond-A186B3.16091103122006@news-server.san.rr.com:
>
> > In article <Xns988F8075B4428krayyhotmailcom.DeleteThis@194.177.96.26>,
> > Krayy <krayy.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > One thing that I am starting to get a little frustrated with in
> > > the newer books is the same map of Midekemia at the front that was
> > > published with Magician. Hasn't there been some rejigging of the
> > > borders after the Serpentwar and also with the current Conclave
> > > books focussing a lot around Roldem and the Eastern Realm, I
> > > wouldn't mind seeing some more maps being put into the next book.
> > >
> > > Any chance of that Ray?
> >
> > Probably not. The changes are only minor, and we're currently doing
> > work on the Atlas maps, so I'd say the next major revision will
> > occur after the last Riftwar, when the landscape changes
> > dramatically.
> >
> > Best, R.E.F.
> >
>
> Damn teasers

I have a theory, it has to do with a world changing planes/merging with
another world if the balance on that world tips one way or the other to the
extent that it no longer belongs on it's current plane. This possibility
presented itself to me when I read about the similarities between Midkemia
and <insert name of Dasati world here that I can't remember>. Of course,
anything that I say in here is pure speculation and I hold no claim to it as
IP. It is in the public domain, scattered to the winds of the digital realm.

> How about at least putting in the Eastern realm one that was in Talon?

Yeah, when the boys were deployed in the Olsako and it's surrounds i would
have found a map handy. However, it's not always needed. Often the mind can
create it for you.

You know what annoyed me? The cover notes mentioned that Vaso had taken over
the body of a Great One. It didn't become obvious in the book until later,
in fact the capture of Miranda could have even been a total surprise instead
of a forseeable event if the cover notes hadn't already warned the reader to
the event.

<Damn!!! Just spilt my glass of Merlot, reaching for it while looking at the
monitor. I get to drink wine so rarely (Christmas special offer at local
supermarket) that I'm not used to the top-heavy glasses. Might have to start
drinking it out of a tumbler. >

Cheers,
--
Shaun.
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~misfit~ wrote:
>
> You know what annoyed me? The cover notes mentioned that Vaso had taken over
> the body of a Great One. It didn't become obvious in the book until later,
> in fact the capture of Miranda could have even been a total surprise instead
> of a forseeable event if the cover notes hadn't already warned the reader to
> the event.
>

At the end of the US Edition of Flight of the Nighthawks is an epilogue
where two Great Ones are sent to investigate a rift that has appeared,
possibly from the Dasanti homeworld. It makes Leso Varden assuming the
body of a Great One pretty obvious. Maybe the down under editions
didn't have that...

Tom
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And thusly dids't Tom Sico <yamamoto.RemoveThis@PLEASE_REMOVE_THIS.twcny.rr.com>
speak, to which I responded as so...

>
>
>~misfit~ wrote:
>>
>> You know what annoyed me? The cover notes mentioned that Vaso had taken over
>> the body of a Great One. It didn't become obvious in the book until later,
>> in fact the capture of Miranda could have even been a total surprise instead
>> of a forseeable event if the cover notes hadn't already warned the reader to
>> the event.
>>
>
>At the end of the US Edition of Flight of the Nighthawks is an epilogue
>where two Great Ones are sent to investigate a rift that has appeared,
>possibly from the Dasanti homeworld. It makes Leso Varden assuming the
> body of a Great One pretty obvious. Maybe the down under editions
>didn't have that...
>
>Tom

I saw that. I don't believe it mentioned their names there but it was
pretty obvious in the next book which great one it was that was at the
rift to be taken over by Leso.

I suppose it's hard to be objective but man Miranda seemed dense.
They're talking about how the person Leso took over would have
suddenly seemed different or such then in the next sentence they're
talking about how that great one took 6 months off away from everyone
else after the explosion and was a bit different after getting back.
Or something like that. Mayhaps I've misremembered some.


Ashen Shugar
--
The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule!
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Tom Sico wrote:
> ~misfit~ wrote:
> >
> > You know what annoyed me? The cover notes mentioned that Vaso had
> > taken over the body of a Great One. It didn't become obvious in the
> > book until later, in fact the capture of Miranda could have even
> > been a total surprise instead of a forseeable event if the cover
> > notes hadn't already warned the reader to the event.
> >
>
> At the end of the US Edition of Flight of the Nighthawks is an
> epilogue where two Great Ones are sent to investigate a rift that has
> appeared, possibly from the Dasanti homeworld. It makes Leso Varden
> assuming the body of a Great One pretty obvious. Maybe the down
> under editions didn't have that...

Hi Tom,

To me (if I hadn't read the cover blurb) it would have started to become
obvious when, in IaDR, they spoke of a strange creature that came through a
rift and exploded in the presence of two Great Ones, one of whom didn't
survive (Killed by Varen in his new body to give him time to adjust without
anyone knowing what happened?). I believe Varen was temporarilly inhabiting
the body of that creature. It was a different incident (I think) to the one
at the end of FotN.

Cheers,
--
Shaun.
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~misfit~ wrote:
> Tom Sico wrote:
>> ~misfit~ wrote:
>>> You know what annoyed me? The cover notes mentioned that Vaso had
>>> taken over the body of a Great One. It didn't become obvious in the
>>> book until later, in fact the capture of Miranda could have even
>>> been a total surprise instead of a forseeable event if the cover
>>> notes hadn't already warned the reader to the event.
>>>
>> At the end of the US Edition of Flight of the Nighthawks is an
>> epilogue where two Great Ones are sent to investigate a rift that has
>> appeared, possibly from the Dasanti homeworld. It makes Leso Varden
>> assuming the body of a Great One pretty obvious. Maybe the down
>> under editions didn't have that...
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> To me (if I hadn't read the cover blurb) it would have started to become
> obvious when, in IaDR, they spoke of a strange creature that came through a
> rift and exploded in the presence of two Great Ones, one of whom didn't
> survive (Killed by Varen in his new body to give him time to adjust without
> anyone knowing what happened?). I believe Varen was temporarilly inhabiting
> the body of that creature. It was a different incident (I think) to the one
> at the end of FotN.
>
> Cheers,

I hadn't read IaDR yet (I've gone back to waiting for the US First
Editions). But let me quote from the epilogue I mentioned (below).
This is why I say it was pretty obvious, even if there was another
'creature' which Varen inhabited in the interim:

"Are you well?" he [the first magician] he asked, for his friend
had been seized by an unexpected fever and had lain abed for nearly
three days before arising just the day before.
[...some talk about a rift forming and needing to destroy it...]
As [the first magician] started an incantation to obliterate the
rift and the creature who stood before it, the second magician retreated
back half a dozen steps. Then he raised his hands and two lances of
green-white energy lashed out, incinerating the first magician where he
stood.
[....some other stuff I may not realize the importance of until IaDR...]
Humming a nameless tune, Leso Varen looked at the smoldering char
that had been a Great One of the Assembly of Magicians. "Too bad you
sacrificed it all for the good of the Empire." He knelt and lifted the
man effortlessly, hoisting him across his shoulders. "But at least
you'll get a hero's burial, or funeral pyre or whatever it is they do on
this world." He pulled an orb from his robe and depressed a toggle, and
suddenly he was gone.
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Tom Sico wrote:
> ~misfit~ wrote:
> > Tom Sico wrote:
> > > ~misfit~ wrote:
> > > > You know what annoyed me? The cover notes mentioned that Vaso
> > > > had taken over the body of a Great One. It didn't become
> > > > obvious in the book until later, in fact the capture of Miranda
> > > > could have even been a total surprise instead of a forseeable
> > > > event if the cover notes hadn't already warned the reader to
> > > > the event.
> > > At the end of the US Edition of Flight of the Nighthawks is an
> > > epilogue where two Great Ones are sent to investigate a rift that
> > > has appeared, possibly from the Dasanti homeworld. It makes Leso
> > > Varden assuming the body of a Great One pretty obvious. Maybe
> > > the down under editions didn't have that...
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > To me (if I hadn't read the cover blurb) it would have started to
> > become obvious when, in IaDR, they spoke of a strange creature that
> > came through a rift and exploded in the presence of two Great Ones,
> > one of whom didn't survive (Killed by Varen in his new body to give
> > him time to adjust without anyone knowing what happened?). I
> > believe Varen was temporarilly inhabiting the body of that
> > creature. It was a different incident (I think) to the one at the
> > end of FotN. Cheers,
>
> I hadn't read IaDR yet (I've gone back to waiting for the US First
> Editions). But let me quote from the epilogue I mentioned (below).
> This is why I say it was pretty obvious, even if there was another
> 'creature' which Varen inhabited in the interim:
>
> "Are you well?" he [the first magician] he asked, for his friend
> had been seized by an unexpected fever and had lain abed for nearly
> three days before arising just the day before.
> [...some talk about a rift forming and needing to destroy it...]
> As [the first magician] started an incantation to obliterate the
> rift and the creature who stood before it, the second magician
> retreated back half a dozen steps. Then he raised his hands and two
> lances of green-white energy lashed out, incinerating the first
> magician where he stood.
> [....some other stuff I may not realize the importance of until
> IaDR...] Humming a nameless tune, Leso Varen looked at the
> smoldering char that had been a Great One of the Assembly of Magicians.
> "Too bad you
> sacrificed it all for the good of the Empire." He knelt and lifted
> the man effortlessly, hoisting him across his shoulders. "But at
> least you'll get a hero's burial, or funeral pyre or whatever it is
> they do on this world." He pulled an orb from his robe and depressed
> a toggle, and suddenly he was gone.

Ahh, that rings a bell. The problem with a) being poor and b) reading the
books fast, is that I get them from the library (after harrasing them for
the preceeding month) and then, as, even though I try to "ration" them I
read them quickly, the info doesn't always make it into permenant memory
space. This has an upside as I get to enjoy them again. However, the library
charges quite a bit of money for 'Hot Picks' (new releases) and Ray's books
stay on the pay-to-read list for quite a while.

(Sidenote; There will be one major consolation if I ever have the misfortune
to suffer from Alzheimer's, I'll be able to read a 'fresh' R.E.F. story
every day).

I used to re-read them after a month or two at a more leisurely pace when I
could afford to buy them, then usually again a couple years later. Might
have to start getting them out from the library a second time. Or eating
less so I can afford to buy them.

Thanks for the reminder of the epilogue from FotN. It had completely slipped
my mind. Maybe that "if" in the Alzheimer's thing isn't an if at all.
--
Shaun.
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