X-men: Endangered Species.

Billy Bissette wrote:
> JLB wrote:
>> At least I think it was the title. The Maruaders come back. Has
>> anything actually happened with that story recently?
>
> Endangered Species is the back-up currently running in X-Men,
> Uncanny X-Men, New X-Men, and X-Factor. It is the story where
> Beast is getting constant dead ends on finding a way to bring back
> mutants. Which will probably end right around the time that
> Marvel does its story about a new mutant being born.
>
> The Marauders came back in the main storyline in X-Men, which has
> no connection with Endangered Species. It hasn't gone far yet.
>
> The Books of Destiny tie in because apparently some mutant that
> could see all possible futures resulting from any action made some
> guide to the future before she lost her powers and died. Two
> factions of Morlocks arose over how to interpret the guide. One
> is actively trying to force what they believe is a path that will
> restore mutants. The other so far has been passively waiting for
> Storm to show up at their headquarters, as the guide apparently
> predicted.

You're confusing the Books of Destiny (Destiny's Diaries, which are
being used in Adj-less X-MEN) with The Book (untitled beyond that)
being talked about in UNCANNY X-MEN. The Books of Destiny were written
by Destiny, former lover of Mystique. The Book was written by Qwerty,
the Morlock you refer to.

> The future prophecy part is messy if you think about it too much,
> because it has some flaws.

Many flaws.
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JLB <barnett RemoveThis @shentel.net> wrote in news:1190340376.724481.193080
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> At least I think it was the title. The Maruaders come back. Has
> anything actually happened with that story recently?

Endangered Species is the back-up currently running in X-Men, Uncanny
X-Men, New X-Men, and X-Factor. It is the story where Beast is getting
constant dead ends on finding a way to bring back mutants. Which will
probably end right around the time that Marvel does its story about a
new mutant being born.

The Marauders came back in the main storyline in X-Men, which has no
connection with Endangered Species. It hasn't gone far yet.

The Books of Destiny tie in because apparently some mutant that could
see all possible futures resulting from any action made some guide to
the future before she lost her powers and died. Two factions of
Morlocks arose over how to interpret the guide. One is actively trying
to force what they believe is a path that will restore mutants. The
other so far has been passively waiting for Storm to show up at their
headquarters, as the guide apparently predicted.

The future prophecy part is messy if you think about it too much,
because it has some flaws.
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I'd thought that the X-men storyline had a subtitle. So it sounds
like for all the hype barely anything is happening.

JLB
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JLB wrote:
> I'd thought that the X-men storyline had a subtitle. So it sounds
> like for all the hype barely anything is happening.

"Endangered Species" was only supposed to be a minor story with Beast
investigating the state of mutantkind and setting the stage for the
real major event: "Messiah CompleX." There never really was any hype
about anything happening.
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On Sep 21, 7:18 pm, The Black Guardian <blakg... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
> JLB wrote:
> > I'd thought that the X-men storyline had a subtitle. So it sounds
> > like for all the hype barely anything is happening.
>
> "Endangered Species" was only supposed to be a minor story with Beast
> investigating the state of mutantkind and setting the stage for the
> real major event: "Messiah CompleX." There never really was any hype
> about anything happening.

I'm talking about X-men 200 and beyond. The Marauders are back!
Yeah? And? I really haven't heard anything important in the story
since Mystique shot Rogue.

JLB
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The Black Guardian <blakgard.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in
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> Billy Bissette wrote:
>> JLB wrote:
>>> At least I think it was the title. The Maruaders come back. Has
>>> anything actually happened with that story recently?
>>
>> Endangered Species is the back-up currently running in X-Men,
>> Uncanny X-Men, New X-Men, and X-Factor. It is the story where
>> Beast is getting constant dead ends on finding a way to bring back
>> mutants. Which will probably end right around the time that
>> Marvel does its story about a new mutant being born.
>>
>> The Marauders came back in the main storyline in X-Men, which has
>> no connection with Endangered Species. It hasn't gone far yet.
>>
>> The Books of Destiny tie in because apparently some mutant that
>> could see all possible futures resulting from any action made some
>> guide to the future before she lost her powers and died. Two
>> factions of Morlocks arose over how to interpret the guide. One
>> is actively trying to force what they believe is a path that will
>> restore mutants. The other so far has been passively waiting for
>> Storm to show up at their headquarters, as the guide apparently
>> predicted.
>
> You're confusing the Books of Destiny (Destiny's Diaries, which are
> being used in Adj-less X-MEN) with The Book (untitled beyond that)
> being talked about in UNCANNY X-MEN. The Books of Destiny were written
> by Destiny, former lover of Mystique. The Book was written by Qwerty,
> the Morlock you refer to.

No, I didn't confuse the books as I was talking about Qwerty's book.

I just confused the storylines of Uncanny and Adjectiveless. I
will now claim that confusion justified, as Adjectiveless is running
a storyline where a group of aggressively hunting down all sources of
knowledge of the future while Uncanny is running a storyline where
a group is aggressively following a path prescribed in an until now
unknown accurate and insanely detailed source of knowledge of the
future.

Great timing on Marvel's part if the two X-books *don't* cross
over at this point...
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Thanks for all the info
>
> Endangered Species chapter 9 (X-Men #202) --
> Beast continues to drift into darker territory as he and Dark
> Beast raid graves to autopsy corpses in Genosha. Beast refuses to
> accept the possibility that the X-gene is entirely gone, so they
> also use alien tech from Dr. Rao that they claim would detect even
> traces of a depowered X-gene. The result is that they find that
> the X-gene is gone even from corpses of those that died *before*
> M-Day.


WHich is kind of bullshit because some mutants have come back from the
dead since then and not been depowered. So surely some of these guys
would get bypassed too.
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JLB wrote:
> Thanks for all the info
>> Endangered Species chapter 9 (X-Men #202) --
>> Beast continues to drift into darker territory as he and Dark
>> Beast raid graves to autopsy corpses in Genosha. Beast refuses
>> to accept the possibility that the X-gene is entirely gone, so
>> they also use alien tech from Dr. Rao that they claim would
>> detect even traces of a depowered X-gene. The result is that
>> they find that the X-gene is gone even from corpses of those that
>> died *before* M-Day.
>
> WHich is kind of bullshit because some mutants have come back from
> the dead since then and not been depowered. So surely some of
> these guys would get bypassed too.

All of the mutants who've come back from the dead since M-Day have
very well explained reasons for how they did so. It's either part of
their powers (Apocalypse), the "mutant energy" triggered their
resurrection (Vulcan and Darwin), explained by cloning (some
Marauders), or supernatural (Magik and Cyber).

The above doesn't claim that all mutants that died before M-Day lost
their X-Gene. It just states that the X-Gene is missing from pre-M-Day
corpses. What Billy said: "some did get bypassed" or likely will. The
corpses that have been checked have all been nameless.
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JLB <barnett.TakeThisOut@shentel.net> wrote in news:1190428706.694052.193700@
50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:

> On Sep 21, 7:18 pm, The Black Guardian <blakg....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
>> JLB wrote:
>> > I'd thought that the X-men storyline had a subtitle. So it sounds
>> > like for all the hype barely anything is happening.
>>
>> "Endangered Species" was only supposed to be a minor story with Beast
>> investigating the state of mutantkind and setting the stage for the
>> real major event: "Messiah CompleX." There never really was any hype
>> about anything happening.
>
> I'm talking about X-men 200 and beyond. The Marauders are back!
> Yeah? And? I really haven't heard anything important in the story
> since Mystique shot Rogue.

Only Adjectiveless is acknowleding their existance, there have been
only a couple of issues since 200, and those issues have consisted
primarily of fight scenes and aftermath of fight scenes, with a little
bit of set-up for fight scenes.

My summary:

X-Men #201 --
The fight from #200 continues. (10 pages)
Emma takes control of Cannoball, forcing him to escape with Iceman.
Sunfire attacks Cannonball and Iceman, and they fight. (6 pages)
Colossus and Kitty can't raise any teams outside the mansion. (1 page)
Blindfold fakes suicide and New X-Men get their names shown. (3 pg)
Marauders smash into the mansion for the cliffhanger. (2 page)

X-Men #202 --
Cannonball recaps that the Marauders have apparently been wiping
out groups for a while, but the X-Men just didn't notice. As Tempo
creates a time differential, the Marauders are able to stroll through
the mansion at leisure. Their goals are to kill Blindfold and take
Destiny's diaries, but they find Blindfold already dead (as she
faked suicide last issue) and find the diaries to be blank (due to
Emma). Cannonball and Iceman interrogate Sunfire (which means they
beat him up for a few pages.)
The Marauders drop the time differential so that they can
interogate the X-Men about Destiny's diaries, which leads to a large
scale fight. Emma, Scott, Beast, and Wolverine work to escape the
rubble, while Emma tells Cannonball and Iceman what to do next.
Back at the mansion, the New X-Men nurse their hurts and figure out
that Blindfold isn't really dead.
The two-page cliffhanger has the Marauders back with Sinister,
and with Rogue. Sinister uses his own Cerebro to search for someone
that knows where the real diaries are hidden.


Lot of text describing #202, but nothing much really happened.

There is also no explanation for why the Marauders smashed into
the mansion in the first place, when Tempo could have allowed them
to enter and complete their tasks before the X-Men even noticed.
(At least up until Exodus decided he needed to speak to Kitty.)

This also is another case where the New X-Men have effectively
become the home guard for the mansion, and the Sentinel guard is yet
again entirely ineffective.

I thought there was a bit of weirdness in that if Laura can "smell"
that Blindfold isn't dead in #202, then why didn't she tell the rest
of them in #201 when they were all panicking. Looking back, there
is a simple answer. She isn't in the room with them in #201. She
apparently joins them off panel either in the moments when the
Marauders attack, or the moments after Tempo drops the time
differential.


Bonus summaries:

Endangered Species chapter 5 (X-Men #201) --
Neverland was a bad place where people experimented on large
numbers of mutants and then killed them. Beast encounters Dark Beast.

Endangered Species chapter 9 (X-Men #202) --
Beast continues to drift into darker territory as he and Dark
Beast raid graves to autopsy corpses in Genosha. Beast refuses to
accept the possibility that the X-gene is entirely gone, so they
also use alien tech from Dr. Rao that they claim would detect even
traces of a depowered X-gene. The result is that they find that
the X-gene is gone even from corpses of those that died *before*
M-Day. Beast can't handle it, and attacks Dark Beast.
Beast spirals futher downward with his new plan, which is to
study the mutant genome so that they can create an artificial
X-gene that could be implanted in people to hopefully remake
mutants (or create monsters or kill people if it fails.) To do this,
he needs before-and-after samples from depowered mutants, so he
decides to go to Bishop to find dealers of MGH.
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JLB <barnett RemoveThis @shentel.net> wrote in news:1190490630.070731.207330
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> Thanks for all the info
>>
>> Endangered Species chapter 9 (X-Men #202) --
>> Beast continues to drift into darker territory as he and Dark
>> Beast raid graves to autopsy corpses in Genosha. Beast refuses to
>> accept the possibility that the X-gene is entirely gone, so they
>> also use alien tech from Dr. Rao that they claim would detect even
>> traces of a depowered X-gene. The result is that they find that
>> the X-gene is gone even from corpses of those that died *before*
>> M-Day.
>
> WHich is kind of bullshit because some mutants have come back from the
> dead since then and not been depowered. So surely some of these guys
> would get bypassed too.

Some did get bypassed. It doesn't say all the dead were affected.
It says the majority of the dead were affected. Just as with the
living, only a very small fraction of pre-M-Day mutant corpses still
have a locatable X-gene. (Dark Beast implies it is around the same
rate as with the living.)


Which also allows an out for any dead mutants that return. They
can just be in the minority, like the core X-Men and X-villains were.
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JLB <barnett DeleteThis @shentel.net> wrote in
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> Thanks for all the info
>>
>> Endangered Species chapter 9 (X-Men #202) --
>> Beast continues to drift into darker territory as he and Dark
>> Beast raid graves to autopsy corpses in Genosha. Beast refuses to
>> accept the possibility that the X-gene is entirely gone, so they
>> also use alien tech from Dr. Rao that they claim would detect even
>> traces of a depowered X-gene. The result is that they find that
>> the X-gene is gone even from corpses of those that died *before*
>> M-Day.
>
>
> WHich is kind of bullshit because some mutants have come back from the
> dead since then and not been depowered. So surely some of these guys
> would get bypassed too.

Who? More to the point, we really don't know that the x-genes of all
dead mutants went missing. We only know that the vast majority did.
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