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On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:01:39 -0600, Linda Scheimann wrote:

 > That's right, it's Rod McKuen. He wrote poems

Then why didn't he publish any?

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"Peter J Ross" <pjr.RemoveThis@NOSPAMpetitmorte.net> wrote in message
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 > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:01:39 -0600, Linda Scheimann wrote:
 >
  > > That's right, it's Rod McKuen. He wrote poems
 >
 > Then why didn't he publish any?

Iremember my cousin had a 45 single called "I Dig Your Wig" by Rod McKuen,
put out sometime during the Beatlemania era... it even had a photo of him on
the label.
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Peter Ross say, after Linda Scheimann wrote:

  >> That's right, it's Rod McKuen. He wrote poems

 > Then why didn't he publish any?

The question is, why did he? Or, rather, why did the publishers?

Several editions in the sappy seventies. He was one of the schmaltz
schmucks, with Yevteshenko, Richard Bach and Erich "Love Story" Segal. I
remember artwork in Esquire those years with Segal and McKuen crying
alligator tears at a Village cafe.

It was a dreadful, mercantile, aching era of pure rancid dreck, and McKuen
has about as much to do with any counterculture as Frank Sinatra, who he was
sucking up to in the years (two, I think) when he was a name.

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Tremonius wrote:
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 > Peter Ross say, after Linda Scheimann wrote:
 >
   > >> That's right, it's Rod McKuen. He wrote poems
 >
  > > Then why didn't he publish any?
 >
 > The question is, why did he? Or, rather, why did the publishers?

The preceding example of Rossspeak (in the case, like jrspeak)
refers to the fact that, while Rod McKuen still has six-seven slim
books of broken lines leaning in the "Poetry" section of the
Moorhead Library, he never published a poem in his entire career.
Rather like the Dockery himself, though McKuen was paid handsomely
(for a while) for not-writing any poems in his publishing career.
The "works" are syrupy enough for Hallmark, but lack any pretense
at versification, again, something like the Dockery.
His primary income came from writing for Hollywood and PBS. If
there's any truth to the rumor that he invented Barney the Purple
Dinosaur, I may actually have to kill him.
 >
 > Several editions in the sappy seventies. He was one of the schmaltz
 > schmucks, with Yevteshenko, Richard Bach and Erich "Love Story" Segal. I
 > remember artwork in Esquire those years with Segal and McKuen crying
 > alligator tears at a Village cafe.
 >
 > It was a dreadful, mercantile, aching era of pure rancid dreck, and McKuen
 > has about as much to do with any counterculture as Frank Sinatra, who he was
 > sucking up to in the years (two, I think) when he was a name.
 >
 > I am losing faith in these groups. Rod McKuen a Beat?


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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 03:26:49 GMT, Tremonius wrote:

 > Peter Ross say, after Linda Scheimann wrote:
 >
   >>> That's right, it's Rod McKuen. He wrote poems
 >
 >
  >> Then why didn't he publish any?
 >
 > The question is, why did he? Or, rather, why did the publishers?
 >
 > Several editions in the sappy seventies. He was one of the
 > schmaltz schmucks, with Yevteshenko, Richard Bach and Erich "Love
 > Story" Segal. I remember artwork in Esquire those years with Segal
 > and McKuen crying alligator tears at a Village cafe.
 >
 > It was a dreadful, mercantile, aching era of pure rancid dreck, and
 > McKuen has about as much to do with any counterculture as Frank
 > Sinatra, who he was sucking up to in the years (two, I think) when
 > he was a name.

You've said it all better than I could have done. If Rod-the-Poetry-
God ever wrote a poem that wasn't laughable, I'm a man with three
noses.

 > I am losing faith in these groups. Rod McKuen a Beat?

Don't worry too much. It was only the moron who started the thread
and the moron I replied to who thought so.

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Peter J Ross <pjr RemoveThis @NOSPAMpetitmorte.net> wrote in message news:<vnggwdkzsn95$.dlg@gadfly.meow.org>...
 > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 03:26:49 GMT, Tremonius wrote:
 >
  > > Peter Ross say, after Linda Scheimann wrote:
  > >
   > >>> That's right, it's Rod McKuen. He wrote poems
  > >
  > >
   > >> Then why didn't he publish any?
  > >
  > > The question is, why did he? Or, rather, why did the publishers?
  > >
  > > Several editions in the sappy seventies. He was one of the
  > > schmaltz schmucks, with Yevteshenko, Richard Bach and Erich "Love
  > > Story" Segal. I remember artwork in Esquire those years with Segal
  > > and McKuen crying alligator tears at a Village cafe.
  > >
  > > It was a dreadful, mercantile, aching era of pure rancid dreck, and
  > > McKuen has about as much to do with any counterculture as Frank
  > > Sinatra, who he was sucking up to in the years (two, I think) when
  > > he was a name.
 >
 > You've said it all better than I could have done. If Rod-the-Poetry-
 > God ever wrote a poem that wasn't laughable, I'm a man with three
 > noses.
 >
  > > I am losing faith in these groups. Rod McKuen a Beat?
 >
 > Don't worry too much. It was only the moron who started the thread
 > and the moron I replied to who thought so.

Rod McKuen fits better with the Rat Pack, as Kerouac himself would
have, come to think of it. Ring-A-Ding-Ding.
Will

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I try and be nice sometimes. I have to work on that.

Rod McKuen produced a title for one of his jingle collections called
"Stanyon Street and Other Sorrows." That was the best he ever did. The
title. (Stanyon Street runs between Golden Gate Park and the Haight and
climbs steeply at the south end, but I don't think it was allegorical. At
least not in the seventies.) He also threatened, during the Amoeba Bryant
anti-gay hypochristian furor, to have buddies of his in the trade make up
jokes about her. He wrote lyrics for The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie.

"Jean....Jean....come into the world, bonny Jean."

That's the best I can do for Rod McKuen.
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