Where oh where has my ogre gone?

On 2/7/2008 10:43 AM, m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
> Tristaan wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:01:36 -1000, victoreia stomped through my
>> brain with:
> <snip>
>>> victoreia (who got to read "Dune" as homework one year, _and_
>>> watch the David Lynch film in class)
>>
>> That had to have been a LOOOOOONG class.
>>
>> Tristaan (who still hasn't managed to read the whole book much
>> less watch the whole film...)
>
> I believe the more recent Sci-Fi channel mini-series (2001?) was better.
> More watchable, anyway.

Oh, yes. Much better. About the only thing I preferred from the David Lynch
version over the Sci-Fi mini-series was the actress who played Lady Jessica.
>
> As a teenager, I made it through the first 4 books in the main Dune
> six-ology before pooping out. (Ah, the momentum and energy of youth.)
> Tried again as an adult, and only made it through the first book and a
> few chapters of the second. Actually, 'Dune' was fine -- dense, but
> readable. The second book... it was like trying to read a tarpit.
> Thick, gooey, I couldn't see very much and I had the ominous feeling I
> was siiiiiiiinking...
>

Um, should I not mention that I've read all of them? At least twice?

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>> Also, if some unholy fool decides to open the 'box' in your presence,
>> shut your eyes until you hear the sound FX of the lid slamming onto the box.
>
> My OT Prof was giggling after we watched that scene in class. He
> went on for a few minutes about the rediculousness of it all...as
> if shutting your eyes will help... I mean, no-one but the family
> of... were even allowed to

*Aaron (no, not THAT Aaron, the other one)*

I may "borrow" that for my sigfile in Ubuntu, where I am posting from now.

> LOOK at it closed, let alone open the thing.... and touching the
> thing? Oy...
>
> Anywho, we had a good laugh at Hollywood that day...

Aaron (no, not THAT Aaron, the other one).
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>> Also, if some unholy fool decides to open the 'box' in your presence,
>> shut your eyes until you hear the sound FX of the lid slamming onto the box.
>
> My OT Prof was giggling after we watched that scene in class. He
> went on for a few minutes about the rediculousness of it all...as
> if shutting your eyes will help... I mean, no-one but the family
> of Aaron (no, not THAT Aaron, the other one) were even allowed to
> LOOK at it closed, let alone open the thing.... and touching the
> thing? Oy...
>
> Anywho, we had a good laugh at Hollywood that day...
>
> Tristaan

I believe they were 'borrowing' from the destruction of Sodom and
Gomorrah (and Admah, and Zeboim (thank you wikipedia)) and Lot's wife
turning to salt because she looked back at the destruction, gazing upon
God when you know you should not.

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>> But, Shoggoths don't HAVE faces, so I should be immune to THAT effect
>> anyway. Hmm, no bones to melt away either.
>
> Hrm... a good point... although heat that could melt faces and
> bones probably would have other nasty effects on a Shoggoth...
> perhaps...
>
> Tristaan (what does a puddle of Shoggoth smell like)

"You kids better wipe your feet! I don't want anyone tracking Shoggoth
in the house, I just vacuumed!"

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m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
> Tristaan wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:01:36 -1000, victoreia stomped through my
>> brain with:
> <snip>
>>> victoreia (who got to read "Dune" as homework one year, _and_
>>> watch the David Lynch film in class)
>>
>> That had to have been a LOOOOOONG class.
>>
>> Tristaan (who still hasn't managed to read the whole book much
>> less watch the whole film...)
>
> I believe the more recent Sci-Fi channel mini-series (2001?) was better.
> More watchable, anyway.
>
> As a teenager, I made it through the first 4 books in the main Dune
> six-ology before pooping out. (Ah, the momentum and energy of youth.)
> Tried again as an adult, and only made it through the first book and a
> few chapters of the second. Actually, 'Dune' was fine -- dense, but
> readable. The second book... it was like trying to read a tarpit.
> Thick, gooey, I couldn't see very much and I had the ominous feeling I
> was siiiiiiiinking...

It is, a friend of mine lent his two DVD box to me... If you can get
your hands on it, watch it. But I still kind of like the old movie in a
strange way. I read the book something like 10 years before first seing
the movie...

Aphrael...


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In article <13qmrb43i0vht51.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>,
"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
<"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Tristaan wrote:
> > On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:01:36 -1000, victoreia stomped through my
> > brain with:
> <snip>
> >>victoreia (who got to read "Dune" as homework one year, _and_
> >>watch the David Lynch film in class)
> >
> > That had to have been a LOOOOOONG class.
> >
> > Tristaan (who still hasn't managed to read the whole book much
> > less watch the whole film...)
>
> I believe the more recent Sci-Fi channel mini-series (2001?) was better.
> More watchable, anyway.
>
> As a teenager, I made it through the first 4 books in the main Dune
> six-ology before pooping out. (Ah, the momentum and energy of youth.)
> Tried again as an adult, and only made it through the first book and a few
> chapters of the second. Actually, 'Dune' was fine -- dense, but readable.
> The second book... it was like trying to read a tarpit. Thick, gooey, I
> couldn't see very much and I had the ominous feeling I was siiiiiiiinking...

I read all six as a teenager, but haven't gotten back to them since. I
try not to see movies based on books I actually liked, since they're
never as good as the book.

Edna


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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:32:13 -1000, victoreia
<inkypaws DeleteThis @hawaii.nospam.rr.com> wrote:

>On 2/7/2008 10:43 AM, m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
>> Tristaan wrote:
>>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:01:36 -1000, victoreia stomped through my
>>> brain with:
>> <snip>
>>>> victoreia (who got to read "Dune" as homework one year, _and_
>>>> watch the David Lynch film in class)
>>>
>>> That had to have been a LOOOOOONG class.
>>>
>>> Tristaan (who still hasn't managed to read the whole book much
>>> less watch the whole film...)
>>
>> I believe the more recent Sci-Fi channel mini-series (2001?) was better.
>> More watchable, anyway.
>
>Oh, yes. Much better. About the only thing I preferred from the David Lynch
>version over the Sci-Fi mini-series was the actress who played Lady Jessica.

I really liked the child actress who played Alia of the Knife in the Lynch
version, and still do (Alicia Witt)


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victoreia wrote:
> On 2/7/2008 2:37 AM, Tristaan wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:01:36 -1000, victoreia stomped through my brain
>> with:
>>
>>> victoreia (who got to read "Dune" as homework one year, _and_ watch
>>> the David Lynch film in class)
>>
>> That had to have been a LOOOOOONG class.
>
> [laugh] Our instructor broke it up over, oh, two weeks' worth of class
> sessions. He was so excited to be covering it in class, he even made
> popcorn for us! Luckily, it was the extended version, so it got a better
> reaction from the rest of the class.

Duuuuuuuuude... I wanna show movies in class!

:>

>> Tristaan (who still hasn't managed to read the whole book much less
>> watch the whole film...)
>
> It was an English class on science fiction; I was the only student in
> the class who finished ALL the assigned reading over the summer before
> the term started.
>
> -- victoreia (What? I can read this /and/ get credit for it? YES!)

I wanted to take one of those classes. Can't remember why I didn't.
Scheduled at the same time as a class I needed for my major? Or maybe it
was that I'd already read the books listed as reading for the class.

sigh. So little time, so many interesting classes.

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victoreia wrote:
> On 2/7/2008 10:43 AM, m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
<snip - Dune novels>
>> As a teenager, I made it through the first 4 books in the main Dune
>> six-ology before pooping out. (Ah, the momentum and energy of youth.)
>> Tried again as an adult, and only made it through the first book and a
>> few chapters of the second. Actually, 'Dune' was fine -- dense, but
>> readable. The second book... it was like trying to read a tarpit.
>> Thick, gooey, I couldn't see very much and I had the ominous feeling I
>> was siiiiiiiinking...
>
> Um, should I not mention that I've read all of them? At least twice?
>
> --
> victoreia (Just don't ask me about Tolstoy.....never met him)

I imagine a lot of people have read all six. They are sci-fi classics,
after all. That's why it puzzles me that *I* couldn't make it through them
-- reading sci-fi novels is a strong suit of mine!

I still haven't figured it out. I toy with the idea of giving it a third
go. But there are so many books I've never tried reading at all that,
well, I just keep toying idly with the idea.

Anyone else have Good Books that they failed to finish the first time and
mean to try reading again?

(I'm not talking about the ones you tossed down in disgust and wouldn't
touch again if paid to. I mean the ones you would -- if you had infinite
spare time -- give another try at reading.)

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Edna wrote:

> In article <13qmrb43i0vht51 RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
<snip - reading Dune>
>>As a teenager, I made it through the first 4 books in the main Dune
>>six-ology before pooping out. (Ah, the momentum and energy of youth.)
>>Tried again as an adult, and only made it through the first book and a few
>>chapters of the second. Actually, 'Dune' was fine -- dense, but readable.
>> The second book... it was like trying to read a tarpit. Thick, gooey, I
>>couldn't see very much and I had the ominous feeling I was siiiiiiiinking...
>
>
> I read all six as a teenager, but haven't gotten back to them since. I
> try not to see movies based on books I actually liked, since they're
> never as good as the book.

By that logic, I'd never see any movie adaptations of Austen novels.
Instead, I try to see them alllllll...

(Mind you, with many Austen adaptations, once is enough.)

Did you not see the LOTR movie trilogy?

And, yes, I agree that mostly movie adaptations are a severe
disappointment. On the other hand, when the movie is good it can be Very
Very Good.

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On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 18:40:10 -0800, "m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
<"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:

>>> The Bookwurm (who did finish War and Peace but not Anna Karenina)
>>
>> Bookwyrm had never read (nor plans to read) War and Peace nor Anna
>> Karenina.
>> (But the movie of AK isn't *too* bad -- except for the wet kleenex of a
>> actress who plays AK...)

I recently got into it with a fellow who was recommending a list of
manly movies including Casablanca. I took issue with this choice.
I'm fine with many many Humphrey movies, but did he have to recommend
the one with the drip-dry "heroine"? He called me a communist.
<hehe>

>I've never read either.
>
>But my mother's reading group made it through both. Perhaps the support
>group was necessary to motivate them... on the other hand, they are very
>tough readers. Ovid, Faulkner, James Joyce, Marcel Proust... Maybe
>Tolstoy wasn't so much of a leap.
>
>She's been in the same reading group for 20+ years. Pretty cool.

Very cool. Ovid I did ... as part of vacuuming up the mythology
section of the library. Faulkner, Joyce, and Proust were all too
"modern". I did finish Hawaii, but threw it across the room. Gone
with the Wind got the same treatment. Might be a message in that ....
must ponder.

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>Anyone else have Good Books that they failed to finish the first time and
>mean to try reading again?

Oh probably more Mark Twain. The travel novels and such that I was
too young to "get" before now.

<glances over at the library shelves>

Kipling and Ogden Nash for poetry.

The full-length version of Les Miserables. I did not like the edited
down version, and I was told that the full book is much better.

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m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
> Edna wrote:
>
>> In article <13qmrb43i0vht51 RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
>> <"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"@earthlink.net> wrote:
> <snip - reading Dune>
>>> As a teenager, I made it through the first 4 books in the main Dune
>>> six-ology before pooping out. (Ah, the momentum and energy of
>>> youth.) Tried again as an adult, and only made it through the first
>>> book and a few chapters of the second. Actually, 'Dune' was fine --
>>> dense, but readable. The second book... it was like trying to read a
>>> tarpit. Thick, gooey, I couldn't see very much and I had the ominous
>>> feeling I was siiiiiiiinking...
>>
>>
>> I read all six as a teenager, but haven't gotten back to them since. I
>> try not to see movies based on books I actually liked, since they're
>> never as good as the book.
>
> By that logic, I'd never see any movie adaptations of Austen novels.
> Instead, I try to see them alllllll...

That's exactly what came to my mind. Okay, it helps that my first brush
with Austen was the A&E mini-series of Pride and Prejudice. Man, was I
missing out before then! Luckily, it was so well-done that I quickly
made up for the gap in my reading immediately. The Hollywood version of
Emma, with Gwynneth Paltrow is extremely well done, as well, as is Sense
and Sensibility. Heck, I even love Clueless! LOL

>
> (Mind you, with many Austen adaptations, once is enough.)

Yes, some of them have been a little... dry. Which is sad, because
Austen is not dry, at all. And then there's the version of P&P with
Olivier... I couldn't get past the costuming in that one, let alone the
changes, and gave it up after about 15 minutes. Ugh.

>
> Did you not see the LOTR movie trilogy?
>
> And, yes, I agree that mostly movie adaptations are a severe
> disappointment. On the other hand, when the movie is good it can be
> Very Very Good.
>

Like The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe! Or the most recent version
of Little Women- with Winona Ryder, Susan Sarandon, etc. What I loved
about that movie was that where it deviated from the book- and I admit
it added some things- it did so in a historically accurate way. The book
was semi-autobiographical, and they took things from Louisa May Alcott's
real life, or at least conversations that I could totally believe her
having taken part in.

Kat
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