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mholman2

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:11 am
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I've just discovered Patricia Briggs. She is one of those writers that drag
you along and at the end you realize it is 3am and you have to be up very
soon. She also writes variety. One duology (Raven Storm and Raven Strike)
is about traveling folk and magic and saving the kingdom, very vaguely
reminescent of Misty's Bardic series. Another series that I just started is
about werewolves.

Just wanted to recommend her.
Sasha

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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:11:46 -0400, "Sasha Rowan" <mholman2 RemoveThis @cfl.rr.com>
wrote:

>I've just discovered Patricia Briggs. She is one of those writers that drag
>you along and at the end you realize it is 3am and you have to be up very
>soon. She also writes variety. One duology (Raven Storm and Raven Strike)
>is about traveling folk and magic and saving the kingdom, very vaguely
>reminescent of Misty's Bardic series. Another series that I just started is
>about werewolves.
>
>Just wanted to recommend her.
>Sasha
>

Strongly recommend:

Which 'werewolves' are you reading, Anna and Charles or Mercy Thompson.

Mercy, of course, isn't a werewolf, although she's involved with (and was
raised by) a pack of werewolves. She's a coyote, the prototype of the
native american (indian) trickster.

I think the first Patricia Briggs book I read was Dragon Bones, which I
really liked. It's sequel, Dragon Blood, didn't grab me as much. These
are high fantasy, set in a completely made up world (Hurog).

The Hob's Bargain, another high fantasy, is also a great read.

The Sianim books:
Masques
Steal the Dragon
When Demons Walk
These are mostly unrelated standalone books that are set in the same high
fantasy world.

You're already familiar with the Raven books

The 'werewolf books are in two connected groupings.

Mercedes Thompson
Moon Called
Blood Bound
Iron Kissed
Bone Crossed (2009)

Mercy is a VW mechanic (she'll work on most European models, but the VW
engine is her twu wuv) who is a shapeshifter. She was raised by
werewolves, but she is a 'walker' (not a skinwalker), a native american
supernatural who can shift back and forth between human and coyote, without
all the muss and fuss that werewolves go through. While werewolves play a
big role, these aren't werewolf books per se, the protag isn't a were
(though she's a shapeshifter), and she deals with vampires, witches, elves,
kobolds, and other supernatural critters. These are urban fantasy, set in
the Tri-Cities (Kinnewick/Pasco/Richmond) area of Washington state.

I like them a lot.

Anna and Charles (Alpha and Omega)
Alpha and Omega (short story in "On the Prowl" anthology)
Cry Wolf

Cry Wolf just came out and I'll be reading it shortly.



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Sasha Rowan wrote:
> I've just discovered Patricia Briggs. She is one of those writers that drag
> you along and at the end you realize it is 3am and you have to be up very
> soon. She also writes variety. One duology (Raven Storm and Raven Strike)
> is about traveling folk and magic and saving the kingdom, very vaguely
> reminescent of Misty's Bardic series. Another series that I just started is
> about werewolves.
>
> Just wanted to recommend her.
> Sasha

So the non-Mercy Thompson books are also good? I've read
all her werewolf books (including the newest, 'Alpha and
Omega'). Been teetering on the edge of trying out some of
her others -- sometimes authors who do urban fantasy well
absolutely stink at other mini-genres.

Case in point: CE Murphy. Loved her "The Walker Papers"
duology -- better than Briggs' Mercy books, I thought.

But her most recent book, 'The Queen's Bastard', I tossed
down in disgust half-way through.

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William George Ferguson wrote:
> [snip]
>
> Strongly recommend:
>
> Which 'werewolves' are you reading, Anna and Charles or Mercy Thompson.
>
> Mercy, of course, isn't a werewolf, although she's involved with (and was
> raised by) a pack of werewolves. She's a coyote, the prototype of the
> native american (indian) trickster.
>
> [snip]

HAAAAAAAA, I knew I had heard the name somewhere.... I did not realise
until you mentioned the coyote.... I read the two first books some times
ago, and I need to order the third one, since it seems to have been
published in the meantime. Yeah, I liked them, but the covers are...
simply awful and discouraging.

I am less than two month away from giving birth, tired, and preparing my
pack for when I will be in the hospital. I think I will take with me
and read again Briggs...


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On Aug 27, 9:11 am, "Sasha Rowan" <mholm... DeleteThis @cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> I've just discovered Patricia Briggs.  She is one of those writers that drag
> you along and at the end you realize it is 3am and you have to be up very
> soon.  She also writes variety.  One duology (Raven Storm and Raven Strike)
> is about traveling folk and magic and saving the kingdom, very vaguely
> reminescent of Misty's Bardic series.  Another series that I just started is
> about werewolves.
>
> Just wanted to recommend her.
> Sasha

While on vacation I finished the 'Kushiel' series by Jacqueline Carey.
Now I have two books from the sci-fi book club that I missed declining
whilst on vacation, one is the annual best of sci-fi.
Plus I have a pile of magazines about a foot deep to go through.

Aaron
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Aaron Kemtek wrote:
> On Aug 27, 9:11 am, "Sasha Rowan" <mholm... RemoveThis @cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>I've just discovered Patricia Briggs. She is one of those writers that drag
>>you along and at the end you realize it is 3am and you have to be up very
>>soon. She also writes variety. One duology (Raven Storm and Raven Strike)
>>is about traveling folk and magic and saving the kingdom, very vaguely
>>reminescent of Misty's Bardic series. Another series that I just started is
>>about werewolves.
>>
>>Just wanted to recommend her.
>
>
> While on vacation I finished the 'Kushiel' series by Jacqueline Carey.
> Now I have two books from the sci-fi book club that I missed declining
> whilst on vacation, one is the annual best of sci-fi.
> Plus I have a pile of magazines about a foot deep to go through.

Oh, let's not get in to comparing the piles of magazines... :>

<checks under a nearby pile> Darn. Haven't even reached
the 2008 Nat'l Geographics... still working on 2007.

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"William George Ferguson" <wmgfrgsn DeleteThis @newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:11:46 -0400, "Sasha Rowan" <mholman2 DeleteThis @cfl.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I've just discovered Patricia Briggs. She is one of those writers that
>>drag
>>you along and at the end you realize it is 3am and you have to be up very
>>soon. She also writes variety. One duology (Raven Storm and Raven
>>Strike)
>>is about traveling folk and magic and saving the kingdom, very vaguely
>>reminescent of Misty's Bardic series. Another series that I just started
>>is
>>about werewolves.
>>
>>Just wanted to recommend her.
>>Sasha
>>
>
> Strongly recommend:
>
> Which 'werewolves' are you reading, Anna and Charles or Mercy Thompson.

Anna and Charles. I had finished the short story when I posted and have
since finished Cry Wolf. Mercy Thompson I am starting now.
>
> Mercy, of course, isn't a werewolf, although she's involved with (and was
> raised by) a pack of werewolves. She's a coyote, the prototype of the
> native american (indian) trickster.
>
> I think the first Patricia Briggs book I read was Dragon Bones, which I
> really liked. It's sequel, Dragon Blood, didn't grab me as much. These
> are high fantasy, set in a completely made up world (Hurog).

I read Dragon Bones but not the sequel yet.
>
> The Hob's Bargain, another high fantasy, is also a great read.
>
> The Sianim books:
> Masques
> Steal the Dragon
> When Demons Walk
> These are mostly unrelated standalone books that are set in the same high
> fantasy world.

Haven't found any of these yet.
>
> You're already familiar with the Raven books
>
> The 'werewolf books are in two connected groupings.
>
> Mercedes Thompson
> Moon Called
> Blood Bound
Have these two on the to be read shelf. But not the other two.
> Iron Kissed
> Bone Crossed (2009)
>
> Mercy is a VW mechanic (she'll work on most European models, but the VW
> engine is her twu wuv) who is a shapeshifter. She was raised by
> werewolves, but she is a 'walker' (not a skinwalker), a native american
> supernatural who can shift back and forth between human and coyote,
> without
> all the muss and fuss that werewolves go through. While werewolves play a
> big role, these aren't werewolf books per se, the protag isn't a were
> (though she's a shapeshifter), and she deals with vampires, witches,
> elves,
> kobolds, and other supernatural critters. These are urban fantasy, set in
> the Tri-Cities (Kinnewick/Pasco/Richmond) area of Washington state.
>
> I like them a lot.
>
> Anna and Charles (Alpha and Omega)
> Alpha and Omega (short story in "On the Prowl" anthology)
> Cry Wolf
>
> Cry Wolf just came out and I'll be reading it shortly.

It is quite good. <G>

Sasha
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Sasha Rowan wrote:
> I've just discovered Patricia Briggs. She is one of those writers that drag
> you along and at the end you realize it is 3am and you have to be up very
> soon. She also writes variety. One duology (Raven Storm and Raven Strike)
> is about traveling folk and magic and saving the kingdom, very vaguely
> reminescent of Misty's Bardic series. Another series that I just started is
> about werewolves.
>
> Just wanted to recommend her.
> Sasha
>
>
I've been reading Patricia for several years now. In my opinion her best
books have been _When Demons Walk_ and _The Hobbs Bargain_. However she
has written several other good books. She has switched over to were
wolves the last couple of years. I keep buying and reading them even though
I tend to be turned off by the violence.

I'm not sure how to define the series that Demon is in. It is the last of
3 set in the same universe. They are not exactly sequels, so I'm not
sure that it is a trilogy. Each one is a stand alone story, but they happen
approximately in sequence over a period of several years. They mostly don't
concern the same characters. For that matter they don't even really follow
the same theme.

_The Hobbs Bargain_ is a stand alone, and probably her best book.

I didn't much care for the dragon duology or the Raven duology. Otherwise
everything has been fairly readable.

I have noticed that all her books have been reprinted recently. That is a bit
unusual for paperbacks.

Bill
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m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:

> So the non-Mercy Thompson books are also good? I've read all her
> werewolf books (including the newest, 'Alpha and Omega'). Been
> teetering on the edge of trying out some of her others -- sometimes
> authors who do urban fantasy well absolutely stink at other mini-genres.

Mercedes Thompson books are urban fantasy (or alternative history).
The most amazing thing about the series so far is that the main
character, Mercedes, has not developed super powers, has not once relied
on previously undiscovered abilities to win, and consistently uses her
wit and the one special ability she has (besides being able to turn into
a coyote which is not nearly as useful as being a vampire, fae or
werewolf): her partial and somewhat selective immunity to magic. When in
over her head she calls in the cavalry (or reluctantly allows the
cavalry to call in itself Wink


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Marian Griffith wrote:

> m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage] wrote:
>
>> So the non-Mercy Thompson books are also good? I've read all her
>> werewolf books (including the newest, 'Alpha and Omega'). Been
>> teetering on the edge of trying out some of her others -- sometimes
>> authors who do urban fantasy well absolutely stink at other mini-genres.
>
>
> Mercedes Thompson books are urban fantasy (or alternative history).
> The most amazing thing about the series so far is that the main
> character, Mercedes, has not developed super powers, has not once relied
> on previously undiscovered abilities to win, and consistently uses her
> wit and the one special ability she has (besides being able to turn into
> a coyote which is not nearly as useful as being a vampire, fae or
> werewolf): her partial and somewhat selective immunity to magic. When in
> over her head she calls in the cavalry (or reluctantly allows the
> cavalry to call in itself Wink

Errr. To clarify: I've read all the Mercy books. I like 'em.

I was asking about the NOT-Mercy books.

Um.

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"Sasha Rowan" <mholman2 DeleteThis @cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I've just discovered Patricia Briggs. She is one of those writers that
> drag you along and at the end you realize it is 3am and you have to be up
> very soon. She also writes variety. One duology (Raven Storm and Raven
> Strike)
> is about traveling folk and magic and saving the kingdom, very vaguely
> reminescent of Misty's Bardic series. Another series that I just started
> is about werewolves.
>
> Just wanted to recommend her.

Thanks. I absolutely love _The_Hob's_Bargain_, but I have yet to
successfully get into anything else by her. I tried a couple of times, but
got distracted. {Smile}

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"William George Ferguson" <wmgfrgsn.RemoveThis@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:11:46 -0400, "Sasha Rowan" <mholman2.RemoveThis@cfl.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I've just discovered Patricia Briggs. She is one of those writers that
>>drag
>>you along and at the end you realize it is 3am and you have to be up very
>>soon. She also writes variety. One duology (Raven Storm and Raven
>>Strike)
>>is about traveling folk and magic and saving the kingdom, very vaguely
>>reminescent of Misty's Bardic series. Another series that I just started
>>is
>>about werewolves.
>>
>>Just wanted to recommend her.
>>Sasha
>>
>
> Strongly recommend:
>
> Which 'werewolves' are you reading, Anna and Charles or Mercy Thompson.
>
> Mercy, of course, isn't a werewolf, although she's involved with (and was
> raised by) a pack of werewolves. She's a coyote, the prototype of the
> native american (indian) trickster.
>
> I think the first Patricia Briggs book I read was Dragon Bones, which I
> really liked. It's sequel, Dragon Blood, didn't grab me as much. These
> are high fantasy, set in a completely made up world (Hurog).
>
> The Hob's Bargain, another high fantasy, is also a great read.

I loved that one. I've reread it a few times. {SMILE}

> The Sianim books:
> Masques
> Steal the Dragon
> When Demons Walk
> These are mostly unrelated standalone books that are set in the same high
> fantasy world.
>
> You're already familiar with the Raven books
>
> The 'werewolf books are in two connected groupings.
>
> Mercedes Thompson
> Moon Called
> Blood Bound
> Iron Kissed
> Bone Crossed (2009)
>
> Mercy is a VW mechanic (she'll work on most European models, but the VW
> engine is her twu wuv) who is a shapeshifter. She was raised by
> werewolves, but she is a 'walker' (not a skinwalker), a native american
> supernatural who can shift back and forth between human and coyote,
> without
> all the muss and fuss that werewolves go through. While werewolves play
> a
> big role, these aren't werewolf books per se, the protag isn't a were
> (though she's a shapeshifter), and she deals with vampires, witches,
> elves,
> kobolds, and other supernatural critters. These are urban fantasy, set
> in
> the Tri-Cities (Kinnewick/Pasco/Richmond) area of Washington state.
>
> I like them a lot.
>
> Anna and Charles (Alpha and Omega)
> Alpha and Omega (short story in "On the Prowl" anthology)
> Cry Wolf
>
> Cry Wolf just came out and I'll be reading it shortly.

Thanks. I'll have to try to remember this when I get around to trying
the others again. I've tried a couple, and had trouble getting into them.
I'm really not sure why, when I clicked so well the _The_Hob's_Bargain._
{SMILE}


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"m_thomas[numBksInLastHrldMage]"
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> Sasha Rowan wrote:
>> I've just discovered Patricia Briggs. She is one of those writers that
>> drag you along and at the end you realize it is 3am and you have to be
>> up very soon. She also writes variety. One duology (Raven Storm and
>> Raven
>> Strike) is about traveling folk and magic and saving the kingdom, very
>> vaguely reminescent of Misty's Bardic series. Another series that I
>> just started
>> is about werewolves.
>>
>> Just wanted to recommend her.
>> Sasha
>
> So the non-Mercy Thompson books are also good? I've read all her
> werewolf books (including the newest, 'Alpha and Omega'). Been teetering
> on the edge of trying out some of her others -- sometimes authors who do
> urban fantasy well absolutely stink at other mini-genres.

Well, I liked _The_Hob's_Bargain_ quite well. {Smile} However, I had
trouble getting into both _Blood_Bound_ and _Dragonblood_, so I'm probably
not the best person to ask. {Smile}

> Case in point: CE Murphy. Loved her "The Walker Papers" duology --
> better than Briggs' Mercy books, I thought.
>
> But her most recent book, 'The Queen's Bastard', I tossed down in disgust
> half-way through.

I'm not familiar with that author. {Smile}


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> On Aug 27, 9:11 am, "Sasha Rowan" <mholm... RemoveThis @cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>> I've just discovered Patricia Briggs. She is one of those writers that
>> drag
>> you along and at the end you realize it is 3am and you have to be up
>> very
>> soon. She also writes variety. One duology (Raven Storm and Raven
>> Strike)
>> is about traveling folk and magic and saving the kingdom, very vaguely
>> reminescent of Misty's Bardic series. Another series that I just started
>> is about werewolves.
>>
>> Just wanted to recommend her.
>> Sasha
>
> While on vacation I finished the 'Kushiel' series by Jacqueline Carey.
> Now I have two books from the sci-fi book club that I missed declining
> whilst on vacation, one is the annual best of sci-fi.
> Plus I have a pile of magazines about a foot deep to go through.
>
> Aaron

{blink}

Is that _all_?!?

However did you cut a to-be-read pile down so low? {surprised look}


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> Aaron Kemtek wrote:
>> On Aug 27, 9:11 am, "Sasha Rowan" <mholm....RemoveThis@cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I've just discovered Patricia Briggs. She is one of those writers that
>>>drag
>>>you along and at the end you realize it is 3am and you have to be up
>>>very
>>>soon. She also writes variety. One duology (Raven Storm and Raven
>>>Strike)
>>>is about traveling folk and magic and saving the kingdom, very vaguely
>>>reminescent of Misty's Bardic series. Another series that I just
>>>started
>>>is about werewolves.
>>>
>>>Just wanted to recommend her.
>>
>>
>> While on vacation I finished the 'Kushiel' series by Jacqueline Carey.
>> Now I have two books from the sci-fi book club that I missed declining
>> whilst on vacation, one is the annual best of sci-fi.
>> Plus I have a pile of magazines about a foot deep to go through.
>
> Oh, let's not get in to comparing the piles of magazines... :>
>
> <checks under a nearby pile> Darn. Haven't even reached the 2008 Nat'l
> Geographics... still working on 2007.

{blink} You keep a stack you can check? We've given up on that. After a
while, unread and partly-read magazines just get put away anyway. Usually
with other unread and partly-read magazines. It seems like they rarely get
finished first. {SMILE, wink}


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Maybe I've been reading too many Valdemar books... - In this morning's _Washington Post_ there are (surprise!) numerous stories about the race for the Democratic Party nomination for this fall's Presidential elections. One article (page A5) describes the fading campaign of Howard Dean. As I do for most..

Reading books decreases your IQ ! - Better watch TV , it's better for your brain !
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