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William M. Klimon wrote: <snip> and a great idea.


 > I, however, make a plea that we balance the profusion of discussion of the mechanics and economics of book selling with some tales of collecting, some biblio-news, some brags, and some boasts.

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 > Have you got a new collections going?

I am still slogging away with Lawrence, Polar Exploration and some other
collections - aswell as tentively starting an Everest collection - only 2
books so far...

However I have recently aquired about 5 books specifically on Douglas Mawson
and his antarctic expeditions - arguably the most difficult conditions and
explorations and yet apart from in Australia he is relatively unknown.

In my Arabian collection I have unearthed some interesting tomes on Generals
Gordon and Allenby, for virtually nothing,

Political collection greatly enhanced by yesterdays charity shop crawl where
I picked up commentaries on the '68 and '88 Presidential Election campaigns.

Evelyn Waugh collection doubled when I acquired A Little Learning on eBay,
for £3 - alas posted in a large envelope with no protection. I cringed when
I saw it but miraculously it is unharmed. A Tourist in Africa ought to
arrive tommorow, for the grand sum of £4.

I have noticed one trend in the abe dealers (I beleive John has already
mentioned this), a large minority are now accepting Paypal - which is so
useful for me as I more often than not have a balance from eBay sales.

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"Tom" <sabran.TakeThisOut@lintern-mole.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<bgvo2l$43f$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>...
  > > Have you got a new collections going?
 >
 > I am still slogging away with Lawrence, Polar Exploration and some other
 > collections - aswell as tentively starting an Everest collection - only 2
 > books so far...
 >
 > However I have recently aquired about 5 books specifically on Douglas Mawson
 > and his antarctic expeditions - arguably the most difficult conditions and
 > explorations and yet apart from in Australia he is relatively unknown.
 >
 > In my Arabian collection I have unearthed some interesting tomes on Generals
 > Gordon and Allenby, for virtually nothing,
 >
 > Political collection greatly enhanced by yesterdays charity shop crawl where
 > I picked up commentaries on the '68 and '88 Presidential Election campaigns.
 >
 > Evelyn Waugh collection doubled when I acquired A Little Learning on eBay,
 > for £3 - alas posted in a large envelope with no protection. I cringed when
 > I saw it but miraculously it is unharmed. A Tourist in Africa ought to
 > arrive tommorow, for the grand sum of £4.
 >
 > I have noticed one trend in the abe dealers (I beleive John has already
 > mentioned this), a large minority are now accepting Paypal - which is so
 > useful for me as I more often than not have a balance from eBay sales.
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 > Tom L-M


One of the more interesting books I sold recently was FIRST OVER
EVEREST, a book on the first flight over Everest. I thought it
fascinating that the book could appeal to so many collectors,
exploration, aviation, mountaineering, and since the flight was filmed
you've got the photography/film making element. Also, one of the
coolest features was the 3-d photographic image of the mountain with
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William M. Klimon <william.m.klimon.c87.RemoveThis@alumni.upenn.edu> wrote:

snippage
 >
 >
 >Have you got a new collection going? (I have: my collection of editions of
 >Augustine's *Confessiones* is up and running.)
 >
 >Have you bought any new bibliographies or reference works?
 >
Snippage

I suspect that William is really enquiring about bibliographic reference
works, but maybe this is a step back up or down the line.

I recently purchased (in a bricks and mortar shop) a 2 volume "Terminology
Bulletin" for archaeology, published by the Canadian Secretary of State's
office. This in support of a vague idea I have had for producing a list
(a bibliography is too much trouble) of dictionarys of archaeology.
The set was ex lib, apparently a reference desk copy from a reference
desk which rarely if ever needed to refer to it.
Matthew Hill
ps- just glanced at the back. From the Metropolitan Toronto Reference
Library.
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  > >Have you bought any new bibliographies or reference works?
  > >
 > Snippage
 >
 > I suspect that William is really enquiring about bibliographic reference
 > works, but maybe this is a step back up or down the line.



Not necessarily. A large part of my collecting is of auto/biographical
material. Therefore, biographical dictionaries are very helpful to me.
Recently I picked up for $5 in trade (= <$1 cash) a copy of THE CONCISE
DICTIONARY OF AMERICAN BIOGRAPHY (2d ed. 1977) [I note that the 5th ed. of
the CDAB is in print for $250]. I find it to be a model abridged edition:
it contains an entry for every figure included in the full work, simply
abbreviated and sans bibliography. At the least, it lets one know that
there is a fuller entry in the unabridged work.


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First. Congats to Rich for obtaining a library of bibliographies! I've
discovered that when I acquire an author's bibliography, I tend to buy
more books by that author. With all the author bibliographies you now
have, you're going to need a whole lotta shelf space, Rich!

Bill Klimon wrote, and I snipped:

 >Have you spotted any new trends in, what John Carter called, the taste
[the what] and technique [the how] of book collecting?


I am just starting something similar to what Ed Schaeffer (Monboddo)
just finished. A belated congrats goes to Ed for completing his
collection of the Private Papers of James Boswell! I've just acquired
my first volume of the Hyde edition of the Letters of Samuel Johnson,
volume II of a five-volume series. I've also acquired the last five
volumes of the Letters of Charles Lamb, published in six volumes by the
Bibliophile Society in 1905.
Reading the works of an author is one thing; reading an author's
innermost thoughts to his friends is another. It is a whole new side of
book collecting to me, and I am enjoying it already!

A few odds and ends for my other collections: Pollard's Early
Illustrated Books, London, 1893, for $6.95, which needs the leather
rebacked (I'm continuing my trend of buying hurt books that I will
someday make, as they say in Hawaii, "more better."

An 1812 edition of the Life and Essays of the Late Doctor Franklin,
published by Johnson and Warner, Philadelphia. Title page is missing
the portion in the middle of the page that should say "in his own
words." Both leather covers detached and needs rebacking. $6.99 with
three other books, including the 1816 second edition of the novel,
Lucinda, or the Mountain Mourner. The title page and preliminary leaves
are missing, Bill Klimon notes that only a handful of libraries have
copies of this edition. I just might see about getting facsimile pages
reproduced.


Finally, I have another book for My Sentimental Library, but it also
raises a question that maybe Denise Enck and others can offer their
opinion. I have a softcover copy of Ethel Herring's Echoes of a Log
Cabin that is inscribed to Charles Kuralt:

"With appreciation to you for sharing the beauty of sound with the
world." October 6,1977 E.H. and the Professor. Ethel Herring also
signed it on the title page.

Now here's the question. If this book were to have the bookplate of
Charles Kuralt, I would be assured that this book was from the library
of Charles Kuralt and I would note it accordingly in My Sentimental
Library. Without the bookplate, however, or any other provenance from
Kuralt, I can only assume that this book was in his library. What if
Ethel Herring sent it to the television station instead? Was it ever in
Kuralt's library? Denise? Bill? Paghat?

Jerry Morris



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While admitting that I have here:
(1) defended the proposition that book selling goes hand-in-hand with
collecting--that there is probably no collector who has not sold (or
bartered) books, if only to get a better copy (or some other advantage)
for his own collection; and
(2) even recently discussed my selling as an adjunct to my collecting;
I, however, make a plea that we balance the profusion of discussion of
the mechanics and economics of book selling with some tales of
collecting, some biblio-news, some brags, and some boasts.
Have you got a new collection going? (I have: my collection of editions
of Augustine's *Confessiones* is up and running.)
Have you bought any new bibliographies or reference works?
Since you asked, I will brag a little. Ebay Auction $51.00 including
shipping.
Bibliographies:
A Bibliography of Charles Bukowski by Sanford Dorbin (123/350 signed by
Bukowski and Dorbin)
The Mencken Bibliogrpahy by Betty Adler
A Bibliography of the Works of Robert Louis Stevenson by Col. Prideaux
(Two Different Editions)
Robert Louis Stevenson, A Catalogue
W. B. Yeats, Manuscripts and Printed Books by R. O. Dougan A Critical
Bibliography of the Works of Edmund Spencer printed before 1700 by
Francis Johnson
Alexander Solzhenitsyn, an International Bibliography by Donald Fiene
(Neat, because I just read 'One Day in the Life of Ivan Deniseovich' the
week before)
A Bibliography of Robert Burns by James Gibson A Bibliography of Robert
Burns by J. W. Egerer John Updike, A Bibliography (to 1966)by C. Clarke
Taylor Supplement to Bibliography of Rudyard Kipling (1926-1937) by
Livingston Maughamiana: The Writings of W. Somerset Maugham by Raymond
Toole-Stott A Descriptive Bibliography of James Fenimore Cooper by
Robert E. Spiller and Phillip C. Blackburn
Allen Tate, A Bibliography by Marshall Fallwell, Jr. Bibliography of
Edna St. Vincent Millay by Karl Yost The Literary Career of James
Boswell, Esq: Being the Bibliographical Materials for a Life of Boswell
by Frederick Pottle A Concise Bibliography of the Works of Walt Whitman
by Carolyn Wells and Alfred Goldsmith
Frank Norris: A Bibliography by Kenneth Lohf and Eugene Sheehy A
Bibliography of Henry David Thoreau by Francis H. Allen Kingsley Amis, A
Checklist by Jack Benoit Gohn Sherwood Anderson: A Bibliography by
Eugene Sheehy and Kenneth Lohf A Bibliography of William Carlos Williams
by Emily Mitchell Wallace The Bibliography of Thackeray by Richard
Shepard A Bibliography of Robert Browning by Frederick J. Furnivall
Robert Penn Warren, A Bibliography by Mary Nance Huff Thomas Wolfe, a
Bibliography by George Preston
These are primarily about editions. The rest of the lot were
bibliographies of critisim, reviews and current editions, a slightly
different area. This about doubled the of bibliographies in my
collection. I need to get as organized as Jerry. Need more shelves.
These are a tough read. I will read most of the introductions and
prefaces, but I will learn the most by using them. So if I could help
anyone with some research, it be my pleasure.
Rich



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"Jerry Morris" wrote...
 >
 > Finally, I have another book for My Sentimental Library, but it also
 > raises a question that maybe Denise Enck and others can offer their
 > opinion. I have a softcover copy of Ethel Herring's Echoes of a Log
 > Cabin that is inscribed to Charles Kuralt:
 >
 > "With appreciation to you for sharing the beauty of sound with the
 > world." October 6,1977 E.H. and the Professor. Ethel Herring also
 > signed it on the title page.
 >
 > Now here's the question. If this book were to have the bookplate of
 > Charles Kuralt, I would be assured that this book was from the library
 > of Charles Kuralt and I would note it accordingly in My Sentimental
 > Library. Without the bookplate, however, or any other provenance from
 > Kuralt, I can only assume that this book was in his library. What if
 > Ethel Herring sent it to the television station instead? Was it ever in
 > Kuralt's library? Denise? Bill? Paghat?
 >
 > Jerry Morris

That is a really cool find. I have a real soft spot for association copies
~

Given the inscription, one can probably safely assume that it refers to
"the" Charles Kuralt. But as to whether he ever owned it, well, who knows?
Books are often sent to authors & other public figures by folks who have
never met them. If the book in question were indeed sent to the television
station, it may well never have reached Kuralt's hands.

I have some experience in receiving (usually inscribed) books which are
intended to be forwarded to particular authors. Much of this material is not
wanted by the authors in question and, at their request, never reaches them.
An author may similarly receive books given to him at readings, public
engagments, etc. that may or may not be kept. (I sometimes find, in local
used bookstores, books inscribed to a certain well-known author/poet who
lives in Seattle - he must receive many of them, and keep few.)

A book coming out of an author's private library would, almost certainly be
more valued by a collector than a book inscribed to the author that never
was owned (or valued) by him.
But the problem is, there is really no way to know, unless there is some
provenance & I don't know how you would go about getting that for the book
in question. Could the person you bought it from provide any information?

cheers ~
Denise

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Denise Enck wrote:

That is a really cool find. I have a real soft spot for association
copies
~
Given the inscription, one can probably safely assume that it refers to
"the" Charles Kuralt. But as to whether he ever owned it, well, who
knows? Books are often sent to authors & other public figures by folks
who have never met them. If the book in question were indeed sent to the
television station, it may well never have reached Kuralt's hands.
I have some experience in receiving (usually inscribed) books which are
intended to be forwarded to particular authors. Much of this material is
not wanted by the authors in question and, at their request, never
reaches them. An author may similarly receive books given to him at
readings, public engagments, etc. that may or may not be kept. (I
sometimes find, in local used bookstores, books inscribed to a certain
well-known author/poet who lives in Seattle - he must receive many of
them, and keep few.)
A book coming out of an author's private library would, almost certainly
be more valued by a collector than a book inscribed to the author that
never was owned (or valued) by him.
But the problem is, there is really no way to know, unless there is some
provenance & I don't know how you would go about getting that for the
book in question. Could the person you bought it from provide any
information?
cheers ~
Denise

..............................................
Denise et al,

I've been busy trying to find the provenance of this book. Despite
paghat's advice given in another thread, I attempted to use the web as a
primary source of research.

It was too easy at first. I googled "Charles Kuralt" with "Ethel
Herring" and got one hit from Iowa Women's Archives: Barbara
Fassbinder's papers. Barbara Fassbinder was one of the first health
care workers to contract aids while treating a patient. After going
public, she made an instructional video on the dangers of contracting
aids, the Barbara Fassbinder Story. Upon her death in 1994, her parents
Ethel and James Herring, of Marion, Iowa, donated her papers and videos
to the University of Iowa Libraries. One of the videos was a Charles
Kuralt video from 1992, the ANA Nurse Awards.

It was too easy, but I decided to verify the sad information. Although
Ethel and James Herring were reportedly from Marion, Iowa, her book,
Echoes of a Log Cabin, is about their cabin in North Carolina. In her
book, Ethel Herring never once calls her husband by name; she always
refers to him as "the professor." Nevertheless, Google showed that
there was a Professor James Herring in the Carolinas in the 1950s.

I thought maybe Ethel Herring mentioned her daughter's name in her book,
so I hit the book again. Ethel Herring had eight grandchildren,
Catherine, Carol, Bob, Kimberly, Lee, Harriet, Hunter, and Judd. She
had four cchildren, three sons and one daughter, whose names were hard
to find n the book. Warning flags appeared when I read that her oldest
son's name was Owen Herring Jr.. Reading further, I learned that her
daughter's name was Ann Herring. Clearly, the orignal Google hit
referred to another Herring family who had suffered a terrible loss.

Back to Square one. Ethel Herring, the author of Echoes of a Log Cabin,
was from North Carolina. Charles Kuralt was also from North Carolina.
Ethel Herring wrote two other books about North Carolina, one about
Fort Caswell, and another about Cap'n Charlie and the lighthouse at Cape
Fear. Carolina is my Home was the name of one of Charles Kuralt's
books. Did they know each other professionally or personally? Tonight,
I queried the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill to see if
there were any letters in the Kuralt Collection from Ethel Herring.

Another angle. Enter Wallace Kuralt, the brother of Charles Kuralt. For
almost forty years, Wallace Kuralt was the owner of ten Intimate
Bookshops in the Carolinas. He closed his shops a few years ago, around
the time of his price discrimination lawsuit against Amazon.Com, Banes &
Noble, and Borders.

Remembering Denise's practice about not forwarding unwanted inscribed
copies, I wonder if the television studio forwarded unwanted inscribed
copies to Wallace Kuralt's Intimate Bookshops? If Herring's book was
forwarded to the bookshop, it would have been sold when Kuralt's
bookstores closed.

I bought Herring's book on ebay from a new Jersey bookseller. She
acquired the book at an estate sale in Pennsylvania. How the book ended
up in Pennsylvania may forever remain a mystery, however.

If the library at Chapel Hill cannot provide ay assistance, I will see
about contacting Wallace Kuralt. According to Google, he advertises
himself as an expert witness in price discrimination cases. Google also
provides a history of his own price discrimination case, as well as his
report on the price discrimination practices of Wal-Mart. The web does
not provide a means to contact Wallace Kuralt, unless one is seeking his
services in a legal dispute. Perhaps, as Paghat advises, I should refer
to a library instead of the web in order to find his contact
information.

Jerry Morris


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