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johnnyapplesee

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 4:57 pm Post subject: source of primary "don't try" quote Archived from groups: alt>books>bukowski (more info?)

Hoping one of you Buk fans out there might be able to tell me the original source for the following quote: "Somebody at one of these places asked me: "What do you do? How do you write, create?" You don't, I told them. You don't try. That's very important: not to try, either for Cadillacs, creation or immortality. You wait, and if nothing happens, you wait some more. It's like a bug high on the wall. You wait for it to come to you. When it gets close enough you reach out, slap out and kill it. Or if you like it's looks, you make a pet out of it." Thanks much, -JA >> Stay informed about: source of primary "don't try" quote

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 10:03 am Post subject: source of Buk "don't try" quote [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>books>bukowski, others (more info?)

Johnny Appleseed <JohnnyAppleseed.RemoveThis@outland.com> wrote in message news:<bjrgov0h5m46hrs62tup5ptch8gjvg783p.RemoveThis@4ax.com>... > Hoping one of you Buk fans out there might be able to tell me the > original source for the following quote: > > "Somebody at one of these places asked me: "What do you do? How do you > write, create?" You don't, I told them. You don't try. That's very > important: not to try, either for Cadillacs, creation or immortality. > You wait, and if nothing happens, you wait some more. It's like a bug > high on the wall. You wait for it to come to you. When it gets close > enough you reach out, slap out and kill it. Or if you like it's looks, > you make a pet out of it." > > > Thanks much, > -JA Great quote, and pretty accurate, for at least some of us poets, for the endlessly and annoyingly asked question, "Where do you get your ideas..?" about the best I can reply is "From out of my head." Somehow it's hard to get across that all I need to do is sit down and write, the words just come out, or not, as Bukowski explained. Will<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: source of primary "don't try" quote

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: source of Buk "don't try" quote [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Will Dockery" <shadowville RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bd2f3245.0310160603.480132af@posting.google.com... > Johnny Appleseed <JohnnyAppleseed RemoveThis @outland.com> wrote in message news:<bjrgov0h5m46hrs62tup5ptch8gjvg783p RemoveThis @4ax.com>... > > Hoping one of you Buk fans out there might be able to tell me the > > original source for the following quote: > > > > "Somebody at one of these places asked me: "What do you do? How do you > > write, create?" You don't, I told them. You don't try. That's very > > important: not to try, either for Cadillacs, creation or immortality. > > You wait, and if nothing happens, you wait some more. It's like a bug > > high on the wall. You wait for it to come to you. When it gets close > > enough you reach out, slap out and kill it. Or if you like it's looks, > > you make a pet out of it." > > > > > > Thanks much, > > -JA > > Great quote, and pretty accurate, for at least some of us poets, for > the endlessly and annoyingly asked question, "Where do you get your > ideas..?" about the best I can reply is "From out of my head." > > Somehow it's hard to get across that all I need to do is sit down and > write, the words just come out, or not, as Bukowski explained. > Will ***even Bukowski thought Bukowsi became a joke. Renay<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: source of primary "don't try" quote**

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: source of Buk "don't try" quote [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Renay St. James" wrote: > > "Will Dockery" <shadowville.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:bd2f3245.0310160603.480132af@posting.google.com... > > Johnny Appleseed <JohnnyAppleseed.TakeThisOut@outland.com> wrote in message > news:<bjrgov0h5m46hrs62tup5ptch8gjvg783p.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>... > > > Hoping one of you Buk fans out there might be able to tell me the > > > original source for the following quote: > > > > > > "Somebody at one of these places asked me: "What do you do? How do you > > > write, create?" You don't, I told them. You don't try. That's very > > > important: not to try, either for Cadillacs, creation or immortality. > > > You wait, and if nothing happens, you wait some more. It's like a bug > > > high on the wall. You wait for it to come to you. When it gets close > > > enough you reach out, slap out and kill it. Or if you like it's looks, > > > you make a pet out of it." > > > > > > > > > Thanks much, > > > -JA > > > > Great quote, and pretty accurate, for at least some of us poets, for > > the endlessly and annoyingly asked question, "Where do you get your > > ideas..?" about the best I can reply is "From out of my head." > > > > Somehow it's hard to get across that all I need to do is sit down and > > write, the words just come out, or not, as Bukowski explained. > > Will > > ***even Bukowski thought Bukowsi became a joke. > > Renay Bukowski was a joke Bukowski played on an audience of Wills. Only his audiences usually had the excuse of being stoned and/or drunk at the time. -- -------(m+ ~/)_\| The moving cursor writes, and having writ, blinks on. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://scrawlmark.org" target="_blank">http://scrawlmark.org</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: source of primary "don't try" quote**

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: source of Buk "don't try" quote [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <3F8EE29A.537FFEB3.TakeThisOut@arvig.net>, Dennis M. Hammes says... > >"Renay St. James" wrote: >> >> "Will Dockery" <shadowville.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:bd2f3245.0310160603.480132af@posting.google.com... >> > Johnny Appleseed <JohnnyAppleseed.TakeThisOut@outland.com> wrote in message >> news:<bjrgov0h5m46hrs62tup5ptch8gjvg783p.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>... >> > > Hoping one of you Buk fans out there might be able to tell me the >> > > original source for the following quote: >> > > >> > > "Somebody at one of these places asked me: "What do you do? How do you >> > > write, create?" You don't, I told them. You don't try. That's very >> > > important: not to try, either for Cadillacs, creation or immortality. >> > > You wait, and if nothing happens, you wait some more. It's like a bug >> > > high on the wall. You wait for it to come to you. When it gets close >> > > enough you reach out, slap out and kill it. Or if you like it's looks, >> > > you make a pet out of it." >> > > >> > > >> > > Thanks much, >> > > -JA >> > >> > Great quote, and pretty accurate, for at least some of us poets, for >> > the endlessly and annoyingly asked question, "Where do you get your >> > ideas..?" about the best I can reply is "From out of my head." >> > >> > Somehow it's hard to get across that all I need to do is sit down and >> > write, the words just come out, or not, as Bukowski explained. >> > Will >> >> ***even Bukowski thought Bukowsi became a joke. >> >> Renay > >Bukowski was a joke Bukowski played on an audience of Wills. Only >his audiences usually had the excuse of being stoned and/or drunk at >the time. but Mickey O'Rourke was funny as him. my brother's favorite line: "drink for all my friends!" love and kisses, j r sherman ------------------------------------------------------------------ "A sad tale's best for winter: I have one Of sprites and goblins." ------------------------------------------------------------------<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: source of primary "don't try" quote**

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 9:00 am Post subject: Re: source of Buk "don't try" quote [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Dennis M. Hammes wrote: >"Renay St. James" wrote: > > >>"Will Dockery" <shadowville.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>news:bd2f3245.0310160603.480132af@posting.google.com... >> >> >>>Johnny Appleseed <JohnnyAppleseed.DeleteThis@outland.com> wrote in message >>> >>> >>news:<bjrgov0h5m46hrs62tup5ptch8gjvg783p.DeleteThis@4ax.com>... >> >> >>>>Hoping one of you Buk fans out there might be able to tell me the >>>>original source for the following quote: >>>> >>>>"Somebody at one of these places asked me: "What do you do? How do you >>>>write, create?" You don't, I told them. You don't try. That's very >>>>important: not to try, either for Cadillacs, creation or immortality. >>>>You wait, and if nothing happens, you wait some more. It's like a bug >>>>high on the wall. You wait for it to come to you. When it gets close >>>>enough you reach out, slap out and kill it. Or if you like it's looks, >>>>you make a pet out of it." >>>> >>>> >>>>Thanks much, >>>>-JA >>>> >>>> >>>Great quote, and pretty accurate, for at least some of us poets, for >>>the endlessly and annoyingly asked question, "Where do you get your >>>ideas..?" about the best I can reply is "From out of my head." >>> >>>Somehow it's hard to get across that all I need to do is sit down and >>>write, the words just come out, or not, as Bukowski explained. >>>Will >>> >>> >>***even Bukowski thought Bukowsi became a joke. >> >>Renay >> >> > >Bukowski was a joke Bukowski played on an audience of Wills. Only >his audiences usually had the excuse of being stoned and/or drunk at >the time. > > If the quote instructs, it's that one needn't feel self-important because one is an "artist". That Bukowski added a footnote to the discussion of what poetry can be (in form, substance, and a source of real income) is undeniable. Others' defining poetry on Bukowski's terms is where the joke lies -- imagine someone picking up where Shakespeare left off.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: source of primary "don't try" quote**

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 1:44 pm Post subject: Re: source of Buk "don't try" quote [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Arrogantly twisting the sterile canvas snoot of a fully charged icing anointment utensil, j r sherman <jrst RemoveThis @earthlink.net> poots forth... >In article <3F8EE29A.537FFEB3 RemoveThis @arvig.net>, Dennis M. Hammes says... >> >>"Renay St. James" wrote: >>> >>> "Will Dockery" <shadowville RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:bd2f3245.0310160603.480132af@posting.google.com... >>> > Johnny Appleseed <JohnnyAppleseed RemoveThis @outland.com> wrote in message >>> news:<bjrgov0h5m46hrs62tup5ptch8gjvg783p RemoveThis @4ax.com>... >>> > > Hoping one of you Buk fans out there might be able to tell me the >>> > > original source for the following quote: >>> > > >>> > > "Somebody at one of these places asked me: "What do you do? How do you >>> > > write, create?" You don't, I told them. You don't try. That's very >>> > > important: not to try, either for Cadillacs, creation or immortality. >>> > > You wait, and if nothing happens, you wait some more. It's like a bug >>> > > high on the wall. You wait for it to come to you. When it gets close >>> > > enough you reach out, slap out and kill it. Or if you like it's looks, >>> > > you make a pet out of it." >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Thanks much, >>> > > -JA >>> > >>> > Great quote, and pretty accurate, for at least some of us poets, for >>> > the endlessly and annoyingly asked question, "Where do you get your >>> > ideas..?" about the best I can reply is "From out of my head." >>> > >>> > Somehow it's hard to get across that all I need to do is sit down and >>> > write, the words just come out, or not, as Bukowski explained. >>> > Will >>> >>> ***even Bukowski thought Bukowsi became a joke. >>> >>> Renay >> >>Bukowski was a joke Bukowski played on an audience of Wills. Only >>his audiences usually had the excuse of being stoned and/or drunk at >>the time. > > >but Mickey O'Rourke was funny as him. > >my brother's favorite line: "drink for all my friends!" My friend's favourite line includes the words "carpet cleaner". -- Gavin Smith -- Elephants can't jump<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: source of primary "don't try" quote**

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: source of Buk "don't try" quote [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

david rutkowski wrote: > > Dennis M. Hammes wrote: > > >"Renay St. James" wrote: > > > > > >>"Will Dockery" <shadowville DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message > >>news:bd2f3245.0310160603.480132af@posting.google.com... > >> > >> > >>>Johnny Appleseed <JohnnyAppleseed DeleteThis @outland.com> wrote in message > >>> > >>> > >>news:<bjrgov0h5m46hrs62tup5ptch8gjvg783p DeleteThis @4ax.com>... > >> > >> > >>>>Hoping one of you Buk fans out there might be able to tell me the > >>>>original source for the following quote: > >>>> > >>>>"Somebody at one of these places asked me: "What do you do? How do you > >>>>write, create?" You don't, I told them. You don't try. That's very > >>>>important: not to try, either for Cadillacs, creation or immortality. > >>>>You wait, and if nothing happens, you wait some more. It's like a bug > >>>>high on the wall. You wait for it to come to you. When it gets close > >>>>enough you reach out, slap out and kill it. Or if you like it's looks, > >>>>you make a pet out of it." > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Thanks much, > >>>>-JA > >>>> > >>>> > >>>Great quote, and pretty accurate, for at least some of us poets, for > >>>the endlessly and annoyingly asked question, "Where do you get your > >>>ideas..?" about the best I can reply is "From out of my head." > >>> > >>>Somehow it's hard to get across that all I need to do is sit down and > >>>write, the words just come out, or not, as Bukowski explained. > >>>Will > >>> > >>> > >>***even Bukowski thought Bukowsi became a joke. > >> > >>Renay > >> > >> > > > >Bukowski was a joke Bukowski played on an audience of Wills. Only > >his audiences usually had the excuse of being stoned and/or drunk at > >the time. > > > > > If the quote instructs, it's that one needn't feel self-important > because one is an "artist". That Bukowski added a footnote to the > discussion of what poetry can be (in form, substance, and a source of > real income) is undeniable. Others' defining poetry on Bukowski's terms > is where the joke lies -- imagine someone picking up where Shakespeare > left off. Okay. I'll just think of it as natural selection in action. -- -------(m+ ~/)_\| The moving cursor writes, and having writ, blinks on. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://scrawlmark.org" target="_blank">http://scrawlmark.org</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: source of primary "don't try" quote**

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: source of Buk "don't try" quote [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Will Dockery" <shadowville.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> skrev i melding news:bd2f3245.0310160603.480132af@posting.google.com... > Johnny Appleseed <JohnnyAppleseed.RemoveThis@outland.com> wrote in message news:<bjrgov0h5m46hrs62tup5ptch8gjvg783p.RemoveThis@4ax.com>... > > Hoping one of you Buk fans out there might be able to tell me the > > original source for the following quote: > > > > "Somebody at one of these places asked me: "What do you do? How do you > > write, create?" You don't, I told them. You don't try. That's very > > important: not to try, either for Cadillacs, creation or immortality. > > You wait, and if nothing happens, you wait some more. It's like a bug > > high on the wall. You wait for it to come to you. When it gets close > > enough you reach out, slap out and kill it. Or if you like it's looks, > > you make a pet out of it." > > > > > > Thanks much, > > -JA > > Great quote, and pretty accurate, for at least some of us poets, for > the endlessly and annoyingly asked question, "Where do you get your > ideas..?" about the best I can reply is "From out of my head." > > Somehow it's hard to get across that all I need to do is sit down and > write, the words just come out, or not, as Bukowski explained. > Will The above quote is from a 1963 Buk-letter to a professor! See "Livling on Luck" page 49 (in my version) Linda, his wife, also said in an interview that "Don't try" was Buk's answer when ppl asked what his philosophy was... erik<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: source of primary "don't try" quote

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: source of Buk "don't try" quote [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Erik Skjeveland" <hlies DeleteThis @rasmus.uib.no> wrote in message news:<8Q6wb.44662$jf4.2291406@news000.worldonline.dk>... > "Will Dockery" <shadowville DeleteThis @yahoo.com> skrev i melding > news:bd2f3245.0310160603.480132af@posting.google.com... > > Johnny Appleseed <JohnnyAppleseed DeleteThis @outland.com> wrote in message > news:<bjrgov0h5m46hrs62tup5ptch8gjvg783p DeleteThis @4ax.com>... > > > Hoping one of you Buk fans out there might be able to tell me the > > > original source for the following quote: > > > > > > "Somebody at one of these places asked me: "What do you do? How do you > > > write, create?" You don't, I told them. You don't try. That's very > > > important: not to try, either for Cadillacs, creation or immortality. > > > You wait, and if nothing happens, you wait some more. It's like a bug > > > high on the wall. You wait for it to come to you. When it gets close > > > enough you reach out, slap out and kill it. Or if you like it's looks, > > > you make a pet out of it." > > > > > > > > > Thanks much, > > > -JA > > > The above quote is from a 1963 Buk-letter to a professor! > See "Livling on Luck" page 49 (in my version) > Linda, his wife, also said in an interview that "Don't try" was Buk's answer > when ppl asked what his philosophy was... > > erik Thanks for the info... Buk was one of the greatest of our American poets. Will <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://my.lulu.com/content/26663" target="_blank">http://my.lulu.com/content/26663</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: source of primary "don't try" quote

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: source of Buk "don't try" quote [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On 25 Nov 2003 13:44:22 -0800, dockery58 DeleteThis @yahoo.com (Will Dockery) wrote: >"Erik Skjeveland" <hlies DeleteThis @rasmus.uib.no> wrote in message news:<8Q6wb.44662$jf4.2291406@news000.worldonline.dk>... >> "Will Dockery" <shadowville DeleteThis @yahoo.com> skrev i melding >> news:bd2f3245.0310160603.480132af@posting.google.com... >> > Johnny Appleseed <JohnnyAppleseed DeleteThis @outland.com> wrote in message >> news:<bjrgov0h5m46hrs62tup5ptch8gjvg783p DeleteThis @4ax.com>... >> > > Hoping one of you Buk fans out there might be able to tell me the >> > > original source for the following quote: >> > > >> > > "Somebody at one of these places asked me: "What do you do? How do you >> > > write, create?" You don't, I told them. You don't try. That's very >> > > important: not to try, either for Cadillacs, creation or immortality. >> > > You wait, and if nothing happens, you wait some more. It's like a bug >> > > high on the wall. You wait for it to come to you. When it gets close >> > > enough you reach out, slap out and kill it. Or if you like it's looks, >> > > you make a pet out of it." >> > > >> > > >> > > Thanks much, >> > > -JA >> > >> The above quote is from a 1963 Buk-letter to a professor! >> See "Livling on Luck" page 49 (in my version) >> Linda, his wife, also said in an interview that "Don't try" was Buk's answer >> when ppl asked what his philosophy was... >> >> erik > >Thanks for the info... Buk was one of the greatest of our American poets. >Will He surely was a great American poet.. Love is a dog from hell was good too.. -- "Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so." (Bertrand Russell)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: source of primary "don't try" quote

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 2:33 pm Post subject: source of Buk "don't try" quote [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"jake" <invalid.DeleteThis@invalid.com> wrote in message news:it0hsvg9kmvucojbbvsm7t8j8ghtpjivi3@4ax.com... > On 25 Nov 2003 13:44:22 -0800, dockery58.DeleteThis@yahoo.com (Will Dockery) > wrote: > > >"Erik Skjeveland" <hlies.DeleteThis@rasmus.uib.no> wrote in message news:<8Q6wb.44662$jf4.2291406@news000.worldonline.dk>... > >> "Will Dockery" <shadowville.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> skrev i melding > >> news:bd2f3245.0310160603.480132af@posting.google.com... > >> > Johnny Appleseed <JohnnyAppleseed.DeleteThis@outland.com> wrote in message > >> news:<bjrgov0h5m46hrs62tup5ptch8gjvg783p.DeleteThis@4ax.com>... > >> > > Hoping one of you Buk fans out there might be able to tell me the > >> > > original source for the following quote: > >> > > > >> > > "Somebody at one of these places asked me: "What do you do? How do you > >> > > write, create?" You don't, I told them. You don't try. That's very > >> > > important: not to try, either for Cadillacs, creation or immortality. > >> > > You wait, and if nothing happens, you wait some more. It's like a bug > >> > > high on the wall. You wait for it to come to you. When it gets close > >> > > enough you reach out, slap out and kill it. Or if you like it's looks, > >> > > you make a pet out of it." > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Thanks much, > >> > > -JA > >> > > >> The above quote is from a 1963 Buk-letter to a professor! > >> See "Livling on Luck" page 49 (in my version) > >> Linda, his wife, also said in an interview that "Don't try" was Buk's answer > >> when ppl asked what his philosophy was... > >> > >> erik > > > >Thanks for the info... Buk was one of the greatest of our American poets. > >Will > > He surely was a great American poet.. > > Love is a dog from hell was good too.. Finest Kind. Will <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lulu.com/dockery" target="_blank">http://www.lulu.com/dockery</a> > "Many people would sooner die than think; > In fact, they do so." > (Bertrand Russell)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: source of primary "don't try" quote

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