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azrach

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:02 am
Post subject: Are the taltos based on comyn?
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In my lurking around this newsgroup lately, I have
seen quite a large drop-off lately in the number of
posts directly related to Anne Rice's writings, but
hopefully there are other people who have read her
work, both intensively and extensively, who are
lurking here too. Any feedback would be appreciated.

Something started bubbling under the surface of my
memory as I read the mayfair witch series, and actually
emerged some time after i finished reading Blood Canticle.
There is a great deal of similarity here between the
comyn of Bradley's DARKOVER series and Rice's
mayfair witches (red hair, six fingers, etc), and the paralell
becomes even stronger in reference to the origins of the
comyn and the mayfair witches. Both arethe result of
shared genetics between humans and a very tall,basicly
very gentile non-human species. Bradley's CHERRI
(I think that's the right spelling ) are only referred to in
two of the darkover books that I have read, but the
similarities with the taltos definitely are there.

Maybe this has all been discussed earlier before I
started first discovered this newsgroup, and maybe
not (the darkover series was written many years ago,
and is becoming rather forgotten these days), but I
would be interested to know if this is something that
others have noticed, or if Anne Rice has actually
said anything about it.

Thank you in advance for any feedback.

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lynze27

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:01 am
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Six fingers, green or blue eyes, red hair are all common things
associated with witches. Such is the bueaty of Rice's better work.
Throughtout the first three Chronicles if you open your eyes they are
woven chock full with myth and legend. It lends to them a certain
credence. I am trying to think of a good example but it is very late.
One example, is Lestat is a 7th son(8 children=1 daughter and 7 sons) of
course only 3 of Gabrielle's children lived. It was common belief that
the 7th son of a 7th son was a vampire.




azrach.DeleteThis@bellsouth.net (John McCafferty)
In my lurking around this newsgroup lately, I have seen quite a large
drop-off lately in the number of posts directly related to Anne Rice's
writings, but hopefully there are other people who have read her work,
both intensively and extensively, who are lurking here too. Any feedback
would be appreciated.
Something started bubbling under the surface of my memory as I read the
mayfair witch series, and actually emerged some time after i finished
reading Blood Canticle. There is a great deal of similarity here between
the comyn of Bradley's DARKOVER series and Rice's mayfair witches (red
hair, six fingers, etc), and the paralell becomes even stronger in
reference to the origins of the comyn and the mayfair witches. Both
arethe result of shared genetics between humans and a very tall,basicly
very gentile non-human species. Bradley's CHERRI (I think that's the
right spelling ) are only referred to in two of the darkover books that
I have read, but the similarities with the taltos definitely are there.
Maybe this has all been discussed earlier before I started first
discovered this newsgroup, and maybe not (the darkover series was
written many years ago, and is becoming rather forgotten these days),
but I would be interested to know if this is something that others have
noticed, or if Anne Rice has actually said anything about it.
Thank you in advance for any feedback.

lynze

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breeze5301

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:25 am
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I was glad to see this post because I've just started reading the Marion
Zimmer Bradley's Darkover books during the last yr. I haven't read any yet
that would relate to this one, but I wanted to say that I do remember
reading other characters of her's that I thought where done before. Just
can't remember which one's they were right now.

"John McCafferty" <azrach.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:ny6pd.100129$Tq1.3984@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> In my lurking around this newsgroup lately, I have
> seen quite a large drop-off lately in the number of
> posts directly related to Anne Rice's writings, but
> hopefully there are other people who have read her
> work, both intensively and extensively, who are
> lurking here too. Any feedback would be appreciated.
>
> Something started bubbling under the surface of my
> memory as I read the mayfair witch series, and actually
> emerged some time after i finished reading Blood Canticle.
> There is a great deal of similarity here between the
> comyn of Bradley's DARKOVER series and Rice's
> mayfair witches (red hair, six fingers, etc), and the paralell
> becomes even stronger in reference to the origins of the
> comyn and the mayfair witches. Both arethe result of
> shared genetics between humans and a very tall,basicly
> very gentile non-human species. Bradley's CHERRI
> (I think that's the right spelling ) are only referred to in
> two of the darkover books that I have read, but the
> similarities with the taltos definitely are there.
>
> Maybe this has all been discussed earlier before I
> started first discovered this newsgroup, and maybe
> not (the darkover series was written many years ago,
> and is becoming rather forgotten these days), but I
> would be interested to know if this is something that
> others have noticed, or if Anne Rice has actually
> said anything about it.
>
> Thank you in advance for any feedback.
>
>
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lynze27

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:25 am
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Rice recycles her characters namely Lestat-the hero in many of her books
is subtly Lestat.



Re: Are the taltos based on comyn?

Group: alt.books.anne-rice Date: Sun, Nov 28, 2004, 5:25am (EST+5) From:
breeze530.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net (BevD)
I was glad to see this post because I've just started reading the Marion
Zimmer Bradley's Darkover books during the last yr. I haven't read any
yet that would relate to this one, but I wanted to say that I do
remember reading other characters of her's that I thought where done
before. Just can't remember which one's they were right now.
"John McCafferty" <azrach.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:ny6pd.100129$Tq1.3984@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
In my lurking around this newsgroup lately, I have seen quite a large
drop-off lately in the number of posts directly related to Anne Rice's
writings, but hopefully there are other people who have read her work,
both intensively and extensively, who are lurking here too. Any feedback
would be appreciated.
Something started bubbling under the surface of my memory as I read the
mayfair witch series, and actually emerged some time after i finished
reading Blood Canticle. There is a great deal of similarity here between
the comyn of Bradley's DARKOVER series and Rice's mayfair witches (red
hair, six fingers, etc), and the paralell becomes even stronger in
reference to the origins of the comyn and the mayfair witches. Both
arethe result of shared genetics between humans and a very tall,basicly
very gentile non-human species. Bradley's CHERRI (I think that's the
right spelling ) are only referred to in two of the darkover books that
I have read, but the similarities with the taltos definitely are there.
Maybe this has all been discussed earlier before I started first
discovered this newsgroup, and maybe not (the darkover series was
written many years ago, and is becoming rather forgotten these days),
but I would be interested to know if this is something that others have
noticed, or if Anne Rice has actually said anything about it.
Thank you in advance for any feedback.

lynze
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azrach

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:18 am
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<lynze27.DeleteThis@webtv.net> wrote in message
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Six fingers, green or blue eyes, red hair are all common things
associated with witches. Such is the bueaty of Rice's better work.
Throughtout the first three Chronicles if you open your eyes they are
woven chock full with myth and legend. It lends to them a certain
credence. I am trying to think of a good example but it is very late.
One example, is Lestat is a 7th son(8 children=1 daughter and 7 sons) of
course only 3 of Gabrielle's children lived. It was common belief that
the 7th son of a 7th son was a vampire.

ok .... then these things would possibly be from a common
source that both Rice and Bradley drew from .... interesting.
Thank you. I am still intrigued by the possible implications of
the similaraties between Rice's taltos and Bradley's Chierri
(probably misspelled)
John





azrach.DeleteThis@bellsouth.net (John McCafferty)
In my lurking around this newsgroup lately, I have seen quite a large
drop-off lately in the number of posts directly related to Anne Rice's
writings, but hopefully there are other people who have read her work,
both intensively and extensively, who are lurking here too. Any feedback
would be appreciated.
Something started bubbling under the surface of my memory as I read the
mayfair witch series, and actually emerged some time after i finished
reading Blood Canticle. There is a great deal of similarity here between
the comyn of Bradley's DARKOVER series and Rice's mayfair witches (red
hair, six fingers, etc), and the paralell becomes even stronger in
reference to the origins of the comyn and the mayfair witches. Both
arethe result of shared genetics between humans and a very tall,basicly
very gentile non-human species. Bradley's CHERRI (I think that's the
right spelling ) are only referred to in two of the darkover books that
I have read, but the similarities with the taltos definitely are there.
Maybe this has all been discussed earlier before I started first
discovered this newsgroup, and maybe not (the darkover series was
written many years ago, and is becoming rather forgotten these days),
but I would be interested to know if this is something that others have
noticed, or if Anne Rice has actually said anything about it.
Thank you in advance for any feedback.

lynze
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dragonlynx

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:28 am
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My guess is that you could hunt down literally hundreds (maybe even
thousands) of different fantasy novels and find characters that are
similar to Bradley's chieri, Rice's taltos and......ELVES! Elves,
witches, dwarves, goblins, demons, wizards--the world of fantasy
fiction is awash with them. The author may have had enough
imagination to give them a different name, but they all boil down to
the same creatures.

Writers all fall back on the same overriding myths, over and over
again. Jung had it right, in that all this stuff is all part of the
human mass consciousness. What is interesting to me is that we all
find it believable.

dragon
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 4:46 pm
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Very well put! Basically that's what I was thinking too, but couldn't put
it in those words. I definitely believe there is a global consciousness
that goes back to the beginning of time, probably even to time before we
were even human. It's actually wonderful how similar the myths are from
different continents even. Also, there are literally 100s of creation
stories that interweave many of the same themes. I took a college
anthropology class called "Magic, Science & Religion" a few yrs ago & it
really wove it all together.
Like the old saying, "There's not much new on the face of the earth," or
something like that.
Blessed Be!
<dragonlynx DeleteThis @my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> My guess is that you could hunt down literally hundreds (maybe even
> thousands) of different fantasy novels and find characters that are
> similar to Bradley's chieri, Rice's taltos and......ELVES! Elves,
> witches, dwarves, goblins, demons, wizards--the world of fantasy
> fiction is awash with them. The author may have had enough
> imagination to give them a different name, but they all boil down to
> the same creatures.
>
> Writers all fall back on the same overriding myths, over and over
> again. Jung had it right, in that all this stuff is all part of the
> human mass consciousness. What is interesting to me is that we all
> find it believable.
>
> dragon
>
>
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